The increasingly liberal agenda of the mainstream media

[corkman2007]

Of course the media have a liberal bias. One would have to be blind or illiterate to think otherwise. As has been pointed out, most journalists are from a certain class in society, progressing from the Students Union at University to the Irish Times or RTE, socialising with people who share the same "progressive" views. Any deviation from the groupthink invites ostracism and/or ridicule from one's colleagues. The fact that every time the people vote, the media is shown to be out of touch bothers them not at all. They merely redouble their efforts to "educate" us.

I think that the results of the last election support your sentiments above. The people stayed away from the media-supported Fine Gael/Labour coalition.

So what you're saying is that Irish people don't support political parties that are supported by the 'biased liberal' media.

Here's an example of that 'liberal bias' that you gave:

chooselife1 wrote:

Let's look at the Indo site today. There we go: on the top of the page: http://www.independent.ie/world-news/no ... 49421.html

Every week we have these types of articles promoting promiscious sexual activity in the Irish Independent.

FF was the most popular political party at the last general election. It was supported by the Independent News & Media group. How does that square with your suggestion that people don't support political parties that are supported by the 'biased liberal' media?

[lostexpectation]

Chooselife - please provide examples of Liberal Bias in the Irish Media.

The recent Pro-life rally on 7/7/7 got hardly any media coverage except for a mention on the Indo referring to the group as bing militant. This is clear liberal bias.

and the indo has never reffered to groups wanintg abortion legislation as being militant?

[Electro]

You're a f*cking dinosaur.

You and your ilk are thankfully a dying breed.

Whatever the response, this is not a very pleasant thing to say to anyone in a mature political discussion.

He did apologise to me in a PM and I have accepted it.

He is big enough to apologise and that says something in my book.

So you got an apology. And where is your apology for your ignorance and lack of courtesy, leftfemme?

Back on topic, the media (print, audio and visual) has a left-wing, liberal bias, and increasingly so. Much of this is to do with the trivilisation of news coverage as more and more space is given to celebrity/lifestyle issues. The recent revamping of TIME Magazine is notable in that some celebrity dimwit now appears on the contents page every week.

In Men's Rights Advocacy circles the media is referred to as the Effeminate Media. This ties in with its liberal bias. Most newspapers now devote much thought as to how they can make their papers relevant to women, which make up the bulk of the rich among 20-30 year olds, and which make up the bulk of big-spending consumers. The Irish Independent devotes two pages daily, around pages 14 and 15, of what I call "pink news". This pro-female bias seeps into the main coverage too, however. MRA Warren Farrell coined the term "lace curtain" in relation to the media catering only for female interests and refusing to report, constructively, on the socio-economic pressures on men in today's society.

The liberal media readily discards stories such as qualified women in their 20s earning up to 20% more than men in the US, and puts a "gimme more, gimme more, gimme more" spin on even the most optimistic of ERSI reports on women in senior positions. A conservative will keep to the facts authentically as possible. A liberal will skew the facts and add hyperbole.

Very ironic was Martina Devlin, I think in the Irish Independent who commented on the Joe O'Reilly case, saying "He tried to take a mother from her children, the worst thing a man can ever do". Completely failing to recognise that this is exactly what women do in the State Divorce Courts every day of the week - yet she cannot seem to see the connection. It's been a long time since I've seen any meaningful commentary on the extremely Matriarchal nature of Divorce Law, either from male or female journalists.

The trivilisation, feminisation and liberalisation of the mainstream media are all closely related. They all increase in tandem with each other. It's no coincidence that much of this thread has centred around "gender issues" such as divorce, abortion, feminism and alleged "misogyny".

However there is another Ireland, probably older people, (but not always) who grew up in the 40s and 50s, especially in rural areas, who are still very strict about(publicly) adhering to christian/catholic views, who are strong opposed to loosening the laws on abortion, have conservative views on sex, look with disdain on lone parents, actually be disturbed by homosexuality, etc.

I am a social and moral conservative, and I'm not in my 40s or 50s, I am under 20. Don't assume that it is exclusively an older age-bracket that is being disenfrancised by our liberal media.

[Gimpanzee]

I can think of only one pro-Catholic journalist, David Quinn. However, there is a large gap between what the media want on any moral issue and what the public want. At the divorce referendum, 99.99999999% of journalists supported a 'yes' vote, but the final outcome was almost 50/50.

99.99999999%?? Are there 10 billion journo's in Ireland, including David Quinn?
BTW I'd also count Breda O'Brien of the Irish Times in the Catholic camp too but maybe she's not holy enough for the pruists, I don't know...

Aside from the slight exageration, it is plausible to accept that the vast majority of comment in the MSM was pro-divorce, and that this view was not representative of the population. But the only things that shows is that

a) people who are anti-divorce still prefer the liberal media to the Irish Catholic

b) the msm does not have the influence that those on the extremes of various political and religious movements would have us believe.

It is not unique to Ireland either - the viewing habits of US tv viewers don't differ significantly between the bible belt and NY or California. They may vote conservative in greater numbers but the likes of Sex in the City get the same high ratings.

Moaning about the mainstream meeja in a country with free press is like giving out about the mainstream political parties in a country with free elections - it simply means the complainer is lacking the basic ability to comprehend or value the view points of the general population.

[Nuada]

''Liberal Media'' jaysus lads, it’s a myth unfortunately. I would say the vast majority of the media in Ireland could be considered as being conservative right wing. That’s not a moan, it’s a fact.

By the way, that’s not to suggest that I think Irelands people could be classified as the same.

[sackville]

''Liberal Media'' jaysus lads, it’s a myth unfortunately. I would say the vast majority of the media in Ireland could be considered as being conservative right wing. That’s not a moan, it’s a fact.

By the way, that’s not to suggest that I think Irelands people could be classified as the same.

media more conservative than people? do you live in an inverted universe?

[mad world]

The Sunday Independent is a right wing paper and columnists like Eoghan Harris, Brendan O'Connor and John Drennan are opposed to abortion. They are also strong supporters of Fianna Fail, the Sindo is a Fianna Fail paper.

[Gunnungagap]

I have in my life an intelligent woman that...

Parapraxes par excellence.

[chooselife1]

the media (print, audio and visual) has a left-wing, liberal bias, and increasingly so. Much of this is to do with the trivilisation of news coverage as more and more space is given to celebrity/lifestyle issues. The recent revamping of TIME Magazine is notable in that some celebrity dimwit now appears on the contents page every week.

In Men's Rights Advocacy circles the media is referred to as the Effeminate Media. This ties in with its liberal bias. Most newspapers now devote much thought as to how they can make their papers relevant to women, which make up the bulk of the rich among 20-30 year olds, and which make up the bulk of big-spending consumers. The Irish Independent devotes two pages daily, around pages 14 and 15, of what I call "pink news". This pro-female bias seeps into the main coverage too, however. MRA Warren Farrell coined the term "lace curtain" in relation to the media catering only for female interests and refusing to report, constructively, on the socio-economic pressures on men in today's society.

The liberal media readily discards stories such as qualified women in their 20s earning up to 20% more than men in the US, and puts a "gimme more, gimme more, gimme more" spin on even the most optimistic of ERSI reports on women in senior positions. A conservative will keep to the facts authentically as possible. A liberal will skew the facts and add hyperbole.

Very ironic was Martina Devlin, I think in the Irish Independent who commented on the Joe O'Reilly case, saying "He tried to take a mother from her children, the worst thing a man can ever do". Completely failing to recognise that this is exactly what women do in the State Divorce Courts every day of the week - yet she cannot seem to see the connection. It's been a long time since I've seen any meaningful commentary on the extremely Matriarchal nature of Divorce Law, either from male or female journalists.

The trivilisation, feminisation and liberalisation of the mainstream media are all closely related. They all increase in tandem with each other. It's no coincidence that much of this thread has centred around "gender issues" such as divorce, abortion, feminism and alleged "misogyny".

However there is another Ireland, probably older people, (but not always) who grew up in the 40s and 50s, especially in rural areas, who are still very strict about(publicly) adhering to christian/catholic views, who are strong opposed to loosening the laws on abortion, have conservative views on sex, look with disdain on lone parents, actually be disturbed by homosexuality, etc.

I am a social and moral conservative, and I'm not in my 40s or 50s, I am under 20. Don't assume that it is exclusively an older age-bracket that is being disenfrancised by our liberal media.

Electro have you seen http://www.savethemales.ca?
This site lays out how the illuminati has pitted men against women by encouraging women to be more maculine and vice versa.
It's hard to believe at first but when you look around you see it everywhere. T.V. is the biggest mind controller.
Check out this article:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=432

CL1