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    Should Media Give Equal Voice To Those Complicit In Child Abuse?

    THE MEDIA has been criticised for being “clearly not objective” in coverage of the Ryan report on child abuse and of being “not at all interested” in the religious congregations’ side of the story. The criticisms, made and reported by author, commentator and Redemptorist priest, Fr Tony Flannery, appear in his introduction to the book Responding to the Ryan Report (Columba), which he edited. He writes that, on publication of the Ryan report: “I found myself getting more and more irritated by the majority of the media coverage . . . Too many of the regular media commentators were clearly not objective, but rather had obvious agendas of their own.”

    Media Not Objective On Reporting Of Ryan Report

    The Congregation [of the Christian Brothers] facilitated this man’s immediate departure for England so as to avoid a ‘great danger of a public prosecution’. The Brothers did not inform the parents about the abuse of the boy who had been abused. The Congregation put self-interest in avoiding adverse publicity before their duty to the boys in their care and to their parents.

    • This Brother in the 1960s was in a position to perpetrate serious and repeated sexual abuse of a boy over an 18-month period.
    • The boy was, by his own evidence and by the evidence of Fr Moore, too afraid to report it himself to the Superior, which contradicts the Congregation’s assertion that there was no difficulty about boys who were sexually abused going to the authorities in Artane with complaints.
    • Br Adrien was removed from Letterfrack, where it was ‘positively dangerous’ to have him looking after boys. The implication is clear that he sexually abused boys there.
    • Transferring him to a residential school for deaf boys knowingly endangered a large new group of children.
    • His behaviour in Artane could not have come as a surprise to the authorities.
    • This case demonstrates indifference by the Congregation to the protection of children from a sexual predator. It is evidence of a policy of avoiding the disclosure of abuse rather than dealing with it.
    The Resident Manager was inconsistent in the information he gave to the Department, indicating a lack of respect for the Government officials who raised the matter with him. Sexual abuse by Brothers was a chronic problem in Artane. Brothers who served in Artane included firstly those who had previously been guilty of sexual abuse of boys, secondly those whose abuse was discovered while they worked in Artane and, thirdly some who were subsequently revealed to have abused boys. A timeline of the documented and admitted cases of sexual abuse shows that:
    (a)For more than half of the 33 years under consideration, there was at least one such abuser working there;

    (b)For more than one third of the years there were at least two abusers present;

    (c)During one year in the 1940s there were seven such Brothers in Artane at the same time.
    More abuse occurred than is recorded in documents because of inadequate recording and reporting procedures.
    The sodality was a means of informal communication between boys and the Resident Manager that uncovered four sexual abusers in Artane in 1944, but it was discontinued. Because boys could be punished for complaining about abuse, there was inevitably under-reporting. In the 1960s, the Resident Manager gave instructions that complaints were to be made directly to him and not to the chaplain, thereby cutting off a channel of information. One offender, Br Dennis, admitted sexually abusing many boys in Artane, but only one of his victims gave evidence at the Phase II oral hearings.
    All the above quotes are NOT from the media but from the Ryan Report! Maybe this priest should read the Ryan Report instead of media reports on the said Report!
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    So Fr Flannery would be less irritated if the media didn't comment so negatively on the facilitation of chronic, decades-long, state-ignored sexual abuse that was concealed (and thus implicitly condoned) by religious orders both lay and clerical.

    Wow! Isn't it little he needs to keep him happy?

    I wonder how long it will be before some idiot wanders along here to say he has a point - it was all 'de meeja'?

    I've just started reading Bruce Arnold's "Irish Gulags" book and it made me wonder what happened to all the fury the Ryan Report raised again in the public mind. Has it (as usual in Ireland) evaporated now that eveyone's had a good vent?

    Thank you for raising the subject, Andrew49. I must give "Father" Flannery's book the once-over. Is it a case of "the revisionism starts here", or is it worth a look?
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    I am surprised at Columba whom I'd consider to be a quite good Niche press.

    Why are they publishing this stuff when their focus should be on what they are good at
    like Paddy Kavanagh books and Glenstal- indeed their market could be effected by this
    vanity project.

    I'll review the whole book if anyone wants btw- cos I distrust the IT as well (or as Much
    as the hierarchy)
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    Is Father Tony Flannery what is considered in Ireland a reputable source of information on paedophile and sadist abuse in the church in Ireland?

    Is there not a conflict of interest?
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    Oh this is a howl- just been checking around on this Flannery character and almost the first thing I came across is that he is a contributor to 'Reality' magazine?

    Thats the funniest thing I've seen for quite some time. A priest as a contributor to something called 'Reality'.

    Only in Ireland Sorry for slight diversion but that was too good not to share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dot View Post
    I'll review the whole book if anyone wants btw- cos I distrust the IT as well (or as Much
    as the hierarchy)
    Be good to get your take on it, dot. Far as I've ever seen you're a member of p.ie's Sane Tendency. The bits quoted by andrew49, however, don't bode well.

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    This priest is no stranger to this subject ... a quote from the good priest BEFORE the publication of the Ryan Report:

    Is it not strange that we are devoting so much energy to inquiring into the abuse of children half a century ago when there is so much that is unsavoury in the lives of children today
    That quote above from a guy whose raison d'être dates from the time of Jesus !!!

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    Of course not.

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    l am surprised at Columba, l have a few titles on my shelves but wouldn't pay for a self-edited tome that appears not to grasp the reality of what has emerged from Laffoy/Ryan. would like to see the whole book before concluding on that, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dot View Post
    l am surprised at Columba, l have a few titles on my shelves but wouldn't pay for a self-edited tome that appears not to grasp the reality of what has emerged from Laffoy/Ryan. would like to see the whole book before concluding on that, however.
    I actually heard the tail-end of an interview with Fr Flannery on "Drivetime" this evening. He reckoned the Catholic Church was "stupid" (his word) to take on the whole educational/industrial school thing in the '20s. Sounded like he thought they'd been codded into it.

    To be fair to the man he sounded more self-deluded than machiavellian. I dunno if he thinks they took all that on out of the goodness of their hearts, but he certainly doesn't seem to recognise that it was all about control and (literally) indoctrination.

    In another lifetime I had occasion to read fairly widely in the archives of the bould Dr McQuaid, including quite a lot of his correspondence stretching from the 40s to the 60s, and over and above everything else control was still priority no. 1. McQuaid, of course, was the arch-machiavellian, matched in this only by his old duelling partner Dev. Though it's very, very hard to resist the temptation to think that what both of those gentlemen really wanted to control was whatever strange darkness was inside themselves.

    Also on "Drivetime" tonight Joseph O'Connor was on in his regular slot. As a novelist he's not exactly my cup of tea but tonight he was talking about his attendance at John Paul II's Youth Mass gig in Galway (the famous "Yonk Peeple uff Eye-arr-lend, Ai luff yew" occasion). Seemingly the papal visit was 30 years ago this week. Anyhow, O'Connor pointed out something that I'd never thought of before - that, statistically speaking, it's virtually certain that there were kids there that day who'd been raped by priests.

    It made me think. My own abiding memory of the '79 papal tour is the fact that I had to cross Dublin N to S on the day when every scrap of public transport (such as it was) was dedicated to matters papal. So I had a very long walk, It turned out to be a blessing in disguise, though, as I saw Dublin in a condition that I'd never seen it before or since.

    I had to go down O'Connell St when it was already lined with flag-waving throngs Waiting for the Main Man, and in Middle Abbey Street I came across a weird big group that seemed to consist of every tramp, wino, hobo, weirdo and general nut in the city - as dishevelled, disturbed and downright deranged a crew of unfortunates as I've ever seen. There were dozens of them.

    It turned out that the cops were rounding up anyone they thought might be an embarrassment to the nation should the papal eye fall on them, and corraling them in a side street where they'd be out of the way. It struck me as very Irish Catholic at the time - "sweep the bits that embarrass us under the rug, otherwise what will the Gentry
    think when they come?" Very Christlike - not.

    Looking back on it in the light of O'Connor's point today, I realised that some of these
    folks were very possibly alumni of the industrial schools, and had also had more than their fair share of clerical "luff" in their time.

    You live and learn - even from Joseph O'Connor!
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