Cóir posters being torn down

[FutureTaoiseach]

From Irishelection.com:

Cóir has asked the Gardai to investigate the illegal removal of their No to Lisbon posters, which the organization says are being “systematically torn down in Dublin and other areas.”The anti-Lisbon campaigners said that the removal of hundreds of posters in Dublin alone was a “new low” in dirty tricks campaigning by supporters of the Lisbon Treaty.
“Our volunteers erected 2,000 posters across Dublin, and now hundreds have been taken down,” said Brian Hickey of Cóir. “Firstly, it is a crime to illegally remove referendum posters and we have asked the Gardai in Pearse St to look at CCTV footage of the areas where we know posters have been taken down illegally. That will determine whose is behind this dirty tricks campaign, which is motivated entirely by politics.

From Irishelection.com:

Earlier this week, Dublin City Council admitted that their teams had removed Cóir’s posters despite the fact that the organization have an email from the Department of the Environment dated August 24th , and one from Dublin City Council itself, stating that they had the go-ahead to put up posters immediately. “Whatever about the motivations of the Council’s actions, we’ve spent the week dealing with the Council on the posters, but now that they have stopped interfering in the democratic process, we believe that Yes campaigners are removing posters by stealth.” Mr Hickey said that Cóir had been contacted by members of the public and in one case by a journalist who said that Cóir’s posters had been torn down and Yes posters had been erected in their place. Mr Hickey said that during the last referendum on Lisbon, Longford County Council was obliged to pay €350 by means of compensation for the cost of the destroyed posters. “We’ve seen the BCI cave into government pressure and remove equal airtime rights from No campaigners; the government and the EU are spending millions on campaigns contravening the McKenna judgment and now they are tearing down No posters. They are despicable and profoundly undemocratic,” said the Cóir spokesman

There were similar allegations with respect to Ganley posters in the Euro elections. If these reports are true - which I suspect they are - then it underlines the dictatorial and anti-democratic agenda of those who are pushing the Lisbon Treaty on the Irish people, and refusing to accept the democratic decision of the Irish people. The elites must be held accountable, with charges brought if necessary. If you see persons engaged in such illegal activity, inform the Gardai so that those responsible may be punished and the illegal and anti-democratic behaviour may be punished. Democracy is under threat in this matter.

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[DizzyOC]

In a huge assault on democracy, Coir, whether you agree with their arguments or not, are having their campaign ambushed illegally by the yes side. Their posters all over dublin have been ripped down and put beyond reach of the groups campaign. Having already come through an assault by councils, this is surely a step too far? does this symbolise what the EU is trying to do to irish voices?

Seriously, is this really the state of our nation and actions for irish people to be proud of?

Irish Election Coir Call in the Gardai over Dirty Tricks as Posters are ‘Torn Down’

[Son_Of_The_Republic]

This new tactic on behalf of the YES crowd mirrors,to an horrific degree,the intimidation and vandalism of the National Socialists in Austria and Germany.We are witnessing the rise of liberal,corporate fascism it seems.Frightening.

[draiocht23]

Coir posters are ridiculous attempts at scaremongering. I'm glad they're being torn down.

Let's have a debate on Lisbon, but an honest one. Claims that the min wage will be reduced to €1.84, if Lisbon is passed, are utter rubbish.

[breakingnews]

In a huge assault on democracy, Coir, whether you agree with their arguments or not, are having their campaign ambushed illegally by the yes side. Their posters all over dublin have been ripped down and put beyond reach of the groups campaign. Having already come through an assault by councils, this is surely a step too far? does this symbolise what the EU is trying to do to irish voices?

Seriously, is this really the state of our nation and actions for irish people to be proud of?

Irish Election Coir Call in the Gardai over Dirty Tricks as Posters are ‘Torn Down’

PR stunt. Posters always get taken down, the people who take them down or deface them usually have no interest in politics, but are mindless vandals.

[Oldira1]

Coir posters are ridiculous attempts at scaremongering. I'm glad they're being torn down.

Let's have a debate on Lisbon, but an honest one. Claims that the min wage will be reduced to €1.84, if Lisbon is passed, are utter rubbish.

Really? According to the Fine Gael posters there are two referenda on Oct 2nd.

1/ Are you in favour of Europe?

2/ Are you in favour of recovery?


No referendum on the Lisbon Treaty at all. Who is the real misleader?

[Son_Of_The_Republic]

Coir posters are ridiculous attempts at scaremongering. I'm glad they're being torn down.

Let's have a debate on Lisbon, but an honest one. Claims that the min wage will be reduced to €1.84, if Lisbon is passed, are utter rubbish.

More willful dismissal of the realities to Irish workers by the ECJs ruling in the Laval and Ruffert cases?....It would appear so.Go ahead,go and vote for the rights of buisness to ship in cheap labour to undercut local wage agreements.Be my guest...

[FutureTaoiseach]

Coir posters are ridiculous attempts at scaremongering. I'm glad they're being torn down.

Let's have a debate on Lisbon, but an honest one. Claims that the min wage will be reduced to €1.84, if Lisbon is passed, are utter rubbish.

That is your opinion. You are condoning illegal behaviour. The Treaty is open to differing interpretations. Your stance if profoundly anti-democratic as it seeks to suppress the other side of the argument on Lisbon. It underlines that Lisbon is not a democrstic-project, having been rejected as the EU Constitution in France and Holland - countries we are being asked to foist it upon against the will of the people. It is a reality that Lisbon will lead to a renewed race to the bottom in pay and conditions by legalising work for asylum seekers (Article 15.1 of the Charter), while the wording of the referendum will lead to the govt taking us into the Schengen Area with the abolition of passport checks for travellers into Ireland coming on journey's from 25 Schengen countries.

[DizzyOC]

PR stunt. Posters always get taken down, the people who take them down or deface them usually have no interest in politics, but are mindless vandals.

i can understand that to a degree, but when "hundreds" have gone missing? surely it's more than just vandalism?

[draiocht23]

Really? According to the Fine Gael posters there are two referenda on Oct 2nd.

1/ Are you in favour of Europe?

2/ Are you in favour of recovery?


No referendum on the Lisbon Treaty at all. Who is the real misleader?

Maybe all posters, from both sides, should be abolished - especially, if we are subjected to politicians' ugly faces peering down at us, from poles, for the next month.