COIR's Lisbon Treaty Stance

[liberals]

A student at King's Inns is not a legal expert!

I have to agree with Lefronde on this one. Mr Hickey is not a lawyer and will be eaten alive by the Lawyers for Europe team, all of whom are experienced practitioners who know this treaty inside out. If I were Mr Hickey I would retreat with grace now or suffer a terrible humiliation.

[Cato]

And Irish soldiers are already in Afganistan.

*Sigh* How exactly does that have any bearing on whether or not Lisbon will bring about conscription into an EU army?

[athlonedub]

What the grammar issue?

It should read "fewer" jobs as opposed to "less" jobs.

Thats quite aside from the fact that this treaty has absolutely NOTHING to do with the CCCTB and any removal of Ireland's 12.5 pc rate of Corporation tax!

We really do need a working Referendum Commission to refute the garbage that comes out from the No and Yes sides, so that people can distinguish the wheat from the chaff.

[Cato]

It should read "fewer" jobs as opposed to "less" jobs.

Thats quite aside from the fact that this treaty has absolutely NOTHING to do with the CCCTB and any removal of Ireland's 12.5 pc rate of Corporation tax!

We really do need a working Referendum Commission to refute the garbage that comes out from the No and Yes sides, so that people can distinguish the wheat from the chaff.

What has actually threatened out Corporation tax rate is that increasing it may well turn out to be the price for the ECB rescuing us from the economic ruin that FF & Co. landed us in.

Again, nothing to do with Lisbon. More lies.

[Cael]

Balderdash. Absolute fuc*king balderdash. Even as devils advocacy that's balderdash.

So how do you enforce an agreement that would make Irish women second class EU citizens? How would you get the European court of justice to rule in favour of such an agreement?

[Cael]

Your wrong we have a legaly binding agreement with the E.U. that stop it from forcing abortion law here!!!!!!!




Rubbish if COIR are so great why did they have to tell lie after le after lie in the first referendum???

So much for the the "democratic" credentials of COIR

There's nothing legally binding about an agreement that would be unconstitutional if Lisbon is passed.

[Cael]

I have to agree with Lefronde on this one. Mr Hickey is not a lawyer and will be eaten alive by the Lawyers for Europe team, all of whom are experienced practitioners who know this treaty inside out. If I were Mr Hickey I would retreat with grace now or suffer a terrible humiliation.

I wouldnt be too sure about that. There are such glaring contradictions in Lisbon that you dont have to be an expect at all to point them out.

[NotoriousFin]

I love the "And we'll be seeing more savage spending cuts in accordance with EU rules".


Because our massive debt has *nothing* to do with it....


And how is it even relevant to the treaty debate?

[Cato]

I wouldnt be too sure about that. There are such glaring contradictions in Lisbon that you dont have to be an expect at all to point them out.

Evidence, Cael, evidence. Some concrete examples would be nice rather then just bald assertions.

[Cael]

*Sigh* How exactly does that have any bearing on whether or not Lisbon will bring about conscription into an EU army?

It will not be done directly, but by the use of poverty. Young working class men will be duped into going on foreign imperialist adventures - and come home in body bags.