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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    No doubt RTE and the Irish Times will provide extensive coverage of her visit.
    Nah, there'll probably be another grassroots Yes group much more newsworthy.

    The People's Front of Europe, perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lthse View Post
    Nah, there'll probably be another grassroots Yes group much more newsworthy.

    The People's Front of Europe, perhaps.
    Hmmm would prob have to end in "for Europe" ... let's see .... Ireland for Europe???? ..... Women for Europe ??? ... or the new one -> BUSINESS for Europe ???? .... or maybe the snarling pup runt in the corner (Gen Yes)

    They really need to change to "Generation Yes for Europe" -> kinda out of sync with the rest of the bunch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Well View Post
    Hmmm would prob have to end in "for Europe" ... let's see .... Ireland for Europe???? ..... Women for Europe ??? ... or the new one -> BUSINESS for Europe ???? .... or maybe the snarling pup runt in the corner (Gen Yes)

    They really need to change to "Generation Yes for Europe" -> kinda out of sync with the rest of the bunch
    The People's Popular Front for Europe....phft!

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    Isn't it comic the lurve between SF and the UK Independence Party these days!
    "Irish citizens . . . on ratification of the Treaty could be forced to become Euro soldiers." Sinn Féin claim on Maastricht in 'Democracy or Dependency' p.6. in 1992.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Fair play to her.
    Of course if she was coming to advocate a Yes vote, you'd be howling in outrage at this Foreign Interference In Our Referendum Campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyO'Brien View Post
    Isn't it comic the lurve between SF and the UK Independence Party these days!
    Let's not forget the lurve between FF/FG/GP/Indos/IBEC/Banksters, what a rather strange alliance, all for the "greater good" of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    Of course if she was coming to advocate a Yes vote, you'd be howling in outrage at this Foreign Interference In Our Referendum Campaign.
    That was part of the Yes campaign's hypocrisy last year, on the one hand showing faux indignation of foreign interference while at the same time inviting Merkel and Barrosso over to campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lthse View Post
    That was part of the Yes campaign's hypocrisy last year, on the one hand showing faux indignation of foreign interference while at the same time inviting Merkel and Barrosso over to campaign.
    Obviously that would be hypocrisy, which is why I'm pointing it out. But what foreign interference specifically were "the Yes campaign" indignant about last year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    Obviously that would be hypocrisy, which is why I'm pointing it out. But what foreign interference specifically were "the Yes campaign" indignant about last year?
    FOREIGN Affairs Minister Micheál Martin has criticised what he described as “outside interference in our vital national debate on Ireland’s future in Europe” after a survey by a British think-tank found opposition to the treaty is increasing here.
    Irish Examiner - 2008/07/28: Martin: Lisbon poll ‘outside interference’


    Ministers dismiss new poll on Lisbon as 'biased' - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

    THE Government has attacked an opinion poll which showed that an even bigger number of people would vote 'No' in a second Lisbon Treaty referendum.

    Ministers claimed the poll, commissioned by a British-based anti-Lisbon Treaty group, was "biased" and "not credible".

    Foreign Affairs Minister Micheal Martin hit out at "outside interference", while Europe Minister Dick Roche questioned its validity.

    The poll, which was carried out in the wake of French President Nicolas Sarkozy's state visit last week, found that 62pc of people would vote 'No' in a second referendum and 34pc would vote 'Yes'. This is up from the 53.4pc 'No' vote in last month's referendum.


    'Outside interference' in Lisbon treaty campaign, Irish minister says
    EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Irish Europe minister Dick Roche has said there was "serious external interference" in the run-up to the country's referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.

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    I'm posting this link to a thread started by He3 on Andreason so we can open the eyes of those who think the E.U., especially the commission, is grounded in benevolence.

    http://www.politics.ie/europe/86337-...andreasen.html
    Last edited by west'sawake; 18th August 2009 at 11:27 AM.

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