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They could do that anyway under Nice.
P.S you won't make many friends by calling them slow.
How is that related to Lisbon ?
They could do that anyway under Nice.
P.S you won't make many friends by calling them slow.
Just to add to the above, these takes won't come into place, there simply isn't enough support in the Parlimant.
To summarise, then, Lisbon contains no tax-raising powers, and the EU has no power to raise taxes itself. On the other hand, the member states, unsurprisingly, can give the EU whatever money they like, as long as they all agree on it. However, because the EU budget has to be passed by the EP, the Parliament has the power to reject such a move - and indeed would have to accept such a measure for it to come into force.
Relevance to Lisbon: zero.
Likelihood of actually happening: possible, but low.
Real impact: very low
Scariness for NWO heads: 9
Expect to see this one again.
Last edited by ibis; 2nd August 2009 at 04:50 PM.
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No. It'll be attempted at some point, almost certainly, but it's nothing to do with Lisbon.
It may be attempted but I don't think it will pass, there doesn't seem to be much support for it.Originally Posted by toxic avenger
The EU has no financial resources of its own.
Everything it has it leeches from member states.
Currently through VAT receipts and custom percentages etc.
The Treaty of Lisbon lays out clearly the power for the EU to finance its operations "wholly from its own resources"
EU leaders have stated their desire for an EU TAX.
Lisbon Treaty give them that power.
It does not restrict what percentage of tax it may levy on member states.
This is a dangerous power to give over - especially in these times.
On arguments to the contrary - these are the same people who said Nice would not effect rate of immigration into Ireland -- and look what happened.
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Nice TEU, Article 6.4:
Probably been there since Maastricht, but I can't be arsed checking, given that you didn't even bother to check Nice before going hysterical.4. The Union shall provide itself with the means necessary to attain its objectives and carry through its policies.
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Yes it does the EU is a legal entity and as such has the power to hold resources.
Everything, really ?
Heres my wikipedia link again, I sugest you read it:
Budget of the European Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The EU makes a large protion of it's revenue from customs on imported items.
Does that etc. include revenue from customs on imported items.
Well done you can read.
Correction, some Eu leaders have stated their desire for an eu tax.
No it doesn't that's what we've been discussing, They already have the power under nice to raise taxes.
No it doesn't neither does our constitution, what's your point ?
The EU and our National Government already has that power, we aren't "giving over" anything.
Nice didn't affect the rate of immigration into Ireland.
Accepting former Soviet eastern european countries into the EU did.
You can go to the consolidated version of the Treaty of Lisbon which highlights new insertions from Lisbon - Version I have is from indem group on page 195.
See here: http://en.euabc.com/
EU has tax raising powers under Lisbon and it means business.
To deny so is to mislead people.
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If they're claiming that that article is introduced in Lisbon, then they're lying. Here's the current TEU, you can check it yourself.
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