Lisbon 2 - how will you vote?

[europeasone]

Ok, its really funny that I typed Nice instead of Lisbon (corrected and apologised for)....but your point is????

[Hobo Sapiens]

[QUOTE=europeasone;1841903]Ok, its really funny that I typed Nice instead of Lisbon (corrected and apologised for)....but your point is????[/QUOTE

[waves] hi, Dick! [/waves]

[myksav]

You need to vote YES for the second Lisbon treaty or Europe will abandon us and we will return to poverty as a standard, voting no is NOT an option now. Regardless of the contents of the second Lisbon treaty, we really do not have an option and need to reside that we are now ruled by a greater power which knows the best way forward for Ireland and Europe. You will also see that Europe have reached a point of fustration with Ireland and will not stand for our ignorance in understanding the second Lisbon treaty again. The onus is on us as a nation to catch up with the Europeans and try to adopt a more submissive approach to Europe. Forget about military and abortion issues, these will be implemented with or without the second Lisbon Treaty - understand now, that regardless of what the rebels (Libertas/SF etc) try to communicate, Europe has invested millions in us and we owe them a YES vote. VOTE YES OR SEE OUR COUNTRY DESTROYED BY POVERTY AND ALIENATION FROM THE NEW EUROPE SUPERPOWER.

"slow cynical applause" Well done for posting the clearest piece of rubbish I've seen so far.

[europeasone]

"slow cynical applause" Well done for posting the clearest piece of rubbish I've seen so far.

Am I to take it that you do not agree with my post Myksav? Sarcasm aside, do have a relevant and accurate rebuttal to my post? Seriously?

[The OD]

Why would I change my vote? Brian Cowen has consistently lied about irrelevancies such as guarantees - the man cant even guarantee us a straight answer, so why would I believe a man who has been shown to be dishonest?

[molloyjh]

Why would I change my vote? Brian Cowen has consistently lied about irrelevancies such as guarantees - the man cant even guarantee us a straight answer, so why would I believe a man who has been shown to be dishonest?

You don't have to. You're not voting for or against Cowen or the current Government. You're voting on an EU Treaty. There are dozens of sources of information you could go to. I wouldn't pay a blind bit of attention to any of our crowd but I'm voting Yes regardless.

[myksav]

Am I to take it that you do not agree with my post Myksav? Sarcasm aside, do have a relevant and accurate rebuttal to my post? Seriously?

Yes, you can take it.

VOTE YES OR SEE OUR COUNTRY DESTROYED BY POVERTY AND ALIENATION FROM THE NEW EUROPE SUPERPOWER.

You link economic recovery with Lisbon. And an odd threat from a "new Europe Superpower".

Is that you, Dick Roche?

[Paddy Dignam]

I'm voting NO. AGAIN.

[europeasone]

You don't have to. You're not voting for or against Cowen or the current Government. You're voting on an EU Treaty. There are dozens of sources of information you could go to. I wouldn't pay a blind bit of attention to any of our crowd but I'm voting Yes regardless.

Finally a logical and relevant post.

Federal Europe is emerging at a rapid pace, significant changes are taking place in the nature and structure of Europe as a superstate and the functions of the nation-state (Ireland) are now obsolete. These changes are providing new opportunities for European regions like Ireland to become more important policy actors in a wider Federal European context. The nation-state, however, is now redundant. We are now European citizens first and Irish residents second. The progress to date of Europe as a superstate is irreversible and Europe will continue its progress regardless of resistance encountered in the first Lisbon treaty across several European states. All issues have now been successfully challenged in the second treaty. Lets not have a third vote on the Lisbon treaty...get it right the second time!

Obama has welcomed the progression of Federal Europe:
Barack Obama will back a federal Europe - Telegraph

[Verhofstadt]

Lets put sarcasm aside for once....do you realise that we are NOTHING without Europe? You say NO because so called heroes fought for the independence of Ireland from England but the only people "fighting" for the Irish no vote in the EU was British politians???? - surely you must see that your views are skewed and voting NO is merely a disruptive gesture to the inevitable.....with or without Ireland

Get real...this is so so much bigger than your silly ideals and a YES vote will be passed on Nice 2. Globalisation will not stop because a little island in north western Europe is afraid of abortion...or whatever the excuse is these days

VOTE YES OR BE OUTCASTED FROM THE NEW WORLD

You are a troll.. are you Patrick Bateman's latest creation?