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    Quote Originally Posted by petervalhala View Post
    The same block would also vote that the Earth was flat.
    If the yes side continues with the "loo lah" caricature against no voters it will get an even larger no vote this time. Insulting people is not going to persuade them to agree with you. So keep up the good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petervalhala View Post
    The same block would also vote that the Earth was flat.
    And that Mary was really a virgin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    If the yes side continues with the "loo lah" caricature against no voters it will get an even larger no vote this time. Insulting people is not going to persuade them to agree with you. So keep up the good work.
    I'm merely stating a fact, 18% of people will always vote against common sense. As regards 'loo lah' the No side are far in the lead there with people like Coir

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    Quote Originally Posted by petervalhala View Post
    I'm merely stating a fact, 18% of people will always vote against common sense. As regards 'loo lah' the No side are far in the lead there with people like Coir
    If we're forced to have Coir/Joe Higgins/Peoples Movement/PANA etc. representing us that is only because of the crackdown on dissent on European integration within the main parties. The reality, as announced last year by Cowen with respect to FF, is that anyone who steps out of line on Lisbon is to be thrown out of their respective party. The Citizenship referendum, held on the same day as the local elections, is a classic example of people voting one way in an election and the opposite way in a referendum, and underlines how artificial the cosy-consensus on Europe really is. And BTW I really hope you tell the people on the doorsteps what you think of them because it will really help us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefronde View Post
    And that Mary was really a virgin!
    Don't think so as Mary Lou took maternity leave not so long ago, not even the Shinners are mad enough to suggest she was a virgin

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    I'll be voting no again. Whether or not the guarantees are worth the paper they are written on or not (and I strongly suspect they are not) I will not vote for a Treaty that allows the provisions of this country's Constitution and laws to be overruled by decisions of the European Court of Justice

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    Let's be clear, this is not a democratic vote.

    The Irish people are being bludgeoned into Voting Yes by an alliance of the main parties lead by the village idiot Brian Cowen as well as very dodgy political elites all across Europe who have one common interest, to keep the EU gravy train running as long as possible.

    Threats have been used against the Irish people that unless we vote Yes, there will be dire consequences. Such threats should be reason enough to vote NO.

    Voting Yes or No will have negligible benefit to Ireland either way. But I believe voting No will hasten the political demise of the pathetic Cowen and his cabinet, and will be a well deserved embarrassment to them at EU level and maybe then the rest of Europe will see what an embecilic crowd of Ministers are running Ireland.
    Last edited by anewbeginning; 21st June 2009 at 09:44 PM.

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    If this poll is reflective then the elites are in for one hell of a shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    If we're forced to have Coir/Joe Higgins/Peoples Movement/PANA etc. representing us that is only because of the crackdown on dissent on European integration within the main parties. The reality, as announced last year by Cowen with respect to FF, is that anyone who steps out of line on Lisbon is to be thrown out of their respective party. The Citizenship referendum, held on the same day as the local elections, is a classic example of people voting one way in an election and the opposite way in a referendum, and underlines how artificial the cosy-consensus on Europe really is. And BTW I really hope you tell the people on the doorsteps what you think of them because it will really help us.
    Crackdown? Ganley, Mary Lou and Sinnott all put themselves before the people (unlike you) and were defeated.

    What we have left is a bunch of unelected, unrepresentitive groups, who are so desperate for publicity they make wild and inaccurate statements.

    I will again be engaging people on the doorsteps, and look forward to explaining the truth to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theghost View Post
    I'll be voting no again. Whether or not the guarantees are worth the paper they are written on or not (and I strongly suspect they are not) I will not vote for a Treaty that allows the provisions of this country's Constitution and laws to be overruled by decisions of the European Court of Justice
    Nothing to do with Lisbon, that happened back in 1973.

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