Lisbon 2 - how will you vote?

[Tony_1975]

All you're saying is that your " No " gave you a feeling of empowerment
and you'd like that feeling again.

No, you tool, I'm saying that I said NO and I meant it. And I implore everyone who said NO last time to say No again, and to not allow yourself to be pressured or bullied.

To you, and all other YES to Lisbon whores - Stop putting words in my mouth. I know exactly why I voted NO. And its not for the reasons you're telling me I did.

[FutureTaoiseach]

She resigned in November 1990. The final negotiations on the Maastricht Treaty didn't begin until December 1991, the treaty was finally signed in February 1992. Do you think they would have been able to conduct those negotiations if Margaret Thatcher was prime minister during 1991??

I think Maastrict would have been much, much watered down.

[Limerick Lad]

The last thing Cameron wants on the agenda when and if he becomes the next British Prime Minister is a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, he just posturing knowing that it's a unlikely he will have to hold one.
If Lisbon has already been ratified by the rest of Europe the question of a referendum is purely academic as he has said he will not revisit it and if Lisbon fails to be ratified, the treaty will be dead in the water so no need for a referendum either.
Either way Cameron's posturing on holding a referendum are just for the optics similar to Tony Blair on the Euro before he became British Prime Minister.

[garlandgreen]

Has David Cameron actually committed himself to reversing the UK's ratification of Lisbon if he takes power?

[FutureTaoiseach]

The last thing Cameron wants on the agenda when and if he becomes the next British Prime Minister is a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, he just posturing knowing that it's a unlikely he will have to hold one.
If Lisbon has already been ratified by the rest of Europe the question of a referendum is purely academic as he has said he will not revisit it and if Lisbon fails to be ratified, the treaty will be dead in the water so no need for a referendum either.
Either way Cameron's posturing on holding a referendum are just for the optics similar to Tony Blair on the Euro before he became British Prime Minister.

If we haven't passed it by then Lisbon is dead and the Tories won't pressure us and their Eurosceptic backbenchers over it.

Has David Cameron actually committed himself to reversing the UK's ratification of Lisbon if he takes power?

He says he will if it hasn't come into force in all member states. The position on what will happen otherwise is unclear. If he doesn't torpedo the Treaty (I expect he will), then watch for President Vaclav Klaus who continues to refuse to sign and whose term runs another 3 years. Some Social Democrats and one or two Christian Democrats (small rightwing party) and a former Green minister want parliament to impeach him over this but the Czech Constitution makes it clear that that could only happen in the event of treason or him being incapacitated. I firmly believe that the no side will win the war. Just in case though, we should vote no again in this country.

[Limerick Lad]

Has David Cameron actually committed himself to reversing the UK's ratification of Lisbon if he takes power?

No, he's not that stupid, he just answering a question he knows he will never have to face.

[garlandgreen]

If we haven't passed it by then Lisbon is dead and the Tories won't pressure us and their Eurosceptic backbenchers over it.He says he will if it hasn't come into force in all member states. The position on what will happen otherwise is unclear. If he doesn't torpedo the Treaty (I expect he will), then watch for President Vaclav Klaus who continues to refuse to sign and whose term runs another 3 years.

Why all states? Is this country to be the British Conservative Parties policy decider? Well I suppose that's novel

[FutureTaoiseach]

Why all states? Is this country to be the British Conservative Parties policy decider? Well I suppose that's novel

Because under EU law, an EU treaty requires ratification by all member states to come into force.

[Limerick Lad]

Why all states? Is this country to be the British Conservative Parties policy decider? Well I suppose that's novel

Imagine the Republic of Ireland's voters by voting Yes to Lisbon can force the British Conservative Party to accept something they are vehemently opposed to.

[garlandgreen]

Because under EU law, an EU treaty requires ratification by all member states to come into force.

But it doesn't require all EU Member States consent for him to de-ratify it