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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverLining View Post
    Will the Yes camp ever get it ?
    Just because somebody votes No, doesn't mean they would vote for Sinn Fein, Libertas, Socialist Party, People Movement, PANA, People Before Profit, Coir, UKIP, BNP, UK Conservatives or Jean Marie Le Penn.

    Just because you agree with somebody on one thing doesn't mean you agree with them on everything.

    People have lots of reasons for voting No just, believe it or not, as others do for voting Yes.
    "Well they're making me go out and vote again" seems to be the main one on display

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    I already voted and rejected the amendment. And familiarise yourself with rhetorical emphasis.
    "The perfect liberty they seek is the liberty of making slaves of other people." -- Abraham Lincoln


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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverLining View Post
    Will the Yes camp ever get it ?
    Just because somebody votes No, doesn't mean they would vote for Sinn Fein, Libertas, Socialist Party, People Movement, PANA, People Before Profit, Coir, UKIP, BNP, UK Conservatives or Jean Marie Le Penn.

    Just because you agree with somebody on one thing doesn't mean you agree with them on everything.

    People have lots of reasons for voting No just, believe it or not, as others do for voting Yes.
    Well said

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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    I haven't decided if I will lower myself and my respect for democracy to actually go through the charade of voting again but if I do I can tell you now I will most certainly not be voting yes.
    Please, please, please, to anyone who reads this, do not refuse to vote out of disgust with your reaction to how our No has been treated. You will play into the hands of those who seek to bend us to their will. It is of the utmost importance to stand firm and say NO.

    Clowen, Kenny, Gilmore, Sarkozy, Merkel, RTE or The Irish Times couldn't give a fukk if the turnout next time is 10%, just as long as the majority of that 10% say YES. Not voting out of protest won't put them out in the slightest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverLining View Post
    Will the Yes camp ever get it ?
    Just because somebody votes No, doesn't mean they would vote for Sinn Fein, Libertas, Socialist Party, People Movement, PANA, People Before Profit, Coir, UKIP, BNP, UK Conservatives or Jean Marie Le Penn.

    Just because you agree with somebody on one thing doesn't mean you agree with them on everything.

    People have lots of reasons for voting No just, believe it or not, as others do for voting Yes.
    Most of the people voted no the last time because:

    1. They did not understand the treaty (which is why it should have never been put to a referendum) and.
    2. They listened to the sh1te the crowds you have listed above were spouting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    I already voted and rejected the amendment. And familiarise yourself with rhetorical emphasis.
    And now you can go and do it again as will I. And we can allow our fellow citizens do the same. Your vote and my vote only count as two. Everybody else can take stock of what's happened and what's being established since now & then and make their decision accordingly. It's one of those questions that most definitively cannot be answered by windy assertions or Youtube videos but by a simple tallymans count. And life is sweet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa View Post
    KC is a well known 'Wet' and a notorious Europhile.

    There really is no way out of this for Cameron as he has already publicly committed himself to a Referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. There is no 'cop out' clause in the event of our next Referendum returning a No vote again.

    If we vote NO the Lisbon Treaty is dead in the water and will be scuttled by the Bigger Fish in the pool.
    The Tories talk tough, but they just go through the motions. The main reason why Thatcher was dumped was over the Maastricht Treaty. As soon as she was dumped, the Maastricht Treaty was passed. The Tories have too many links with the financial and business elites. It gives the Tories street-cred to be opposed to the Lisbon Treaty. If the Lisbon Treaty was passed (hypothetically- speaking) you would never hear another pip out of them.

    P.s I'm voting No

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapperTandy View Post
    The Tories talk tough, but they just go through the motions. The main reason why Thatcher was dumped was over the Maastricht Treaty. As soon as she was dumped, the Maastricht Treaty was passed. The Tories have too many links with the financial and business elites. It gives the Tories street-cred to be opposed to the Lisbon Treaty. If the Lisbon Treaty was passed (hypothetically- speaking) you would never hear another pip out of them.

    P.s I'm voting No
    Wrong. She resigned in 1990. Maastricht was negotiated in 1992.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony_1975 View Post
    Please, please, please, to anyone who reads this, do not refuse to vote out of disgust with your reaction to how our No has been treated. You will play into the hands of those who seek to bend us to their will. It is of the utmost importance to stand firm and say NO.
    All you're saying is that your " No " gave you a feeling of empowerment
    and you'd like that feeling again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Wrong. She resigned in 1990. Maastricht was negotiated in 1992.
    She resigned in November 1990. The final negotiations on the Maastricht Treaty didn't begin until December 1991, the treaty was finally signed in February 1992. Do you think they would have been able to conduct those negotiations if Margaret Thatcher was prime minister during 1991??

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