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Thread: Has the no to Lisbon campaign in Ireland been terminally damaged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis View Post
    It's fine - I copied it in time, thanks.
    No bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    Sure. Lisbon would be in short a very bad deal!
    I'm taking it from the following posts that you did in fact provide a list of specific examples, only to remove them. I'm also assuming from your post re refining the list that you intend on re-posting at some point? Would I be right?

    Not being smart here at all, just making sure I'm not reading into anything I shouldn't be.

    And regarding the grammer bit, if I wanted to change history I wouldn't be trying to do it here now would I?
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    Quote Originally Posted by molloyjh View Post
    And regarding the grammer bit....

    ..........not to mention the spelling bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    ..........not to mention the spelling bit.
    Look this is an informal discussion on a simple internet forum. I'm not too fussed over my spelling and grammer, nor anyone elses. As long as I can get my point across that's really all that matters here. Now if I were doing something more formal you can be sure I'd have it done right.

    At the end of the day though the point remains that most of my posts here have not been responded to with reasoned arguments or points of fact. And that is far more important than the odd spelling or grammer mistake in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molloyjh View Post
    I presume you are referring to the Constitution rather than Lisbon, which is a different thing altogether.


    Do forgive me, but when a poster comes out with something like the above it is very difficult to take him seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    Do forgive me, but when a poster comes out with something like the above it is very difficult to take him seriously.
    Ok it may have been badly phrased, they are almost the same, but I was trying to emphasise that the people who do the complaining about their similarities and about the French and Dutch decisions generally don't have the first idea why the Constitution was rejected in those countries and if Lisbon actually dealt with their concerns or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molloyjh View Post
    Ok it may have been badly phrased, they are almost the same, but I was trying to emphasise that the people who do the complaining about their similarities and about the French and Dutch decisions generally don't have the first idea why the Constitution was rejected in those countries and if Lisbon actually dealt with their concerns or not.
    Well if Lisbon I dealt with their concerns, why weren't they allowed to have referendums on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Wainer View Post
    Well if Lisbon I dealt with their concerns, why weren't they allowed to have referendums on it?

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    They didn't have to have one for starters. Why they didn't is a question for the policy makers in those countries. I can't answer that. All I know is that there was no reaction or outrage to the fact that they didn't in either country, so it would seem that the people weren't that pushed.

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    The results as they would have been in a single national constituency as mentioned on the other thread underline that we are very far from dead. Morning will come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis View Post
    It's fine - I copied it in time, thanks.
    I know we've gone over details of the points raised various times but I'd be interested in hearing again your principal criticisms. Any invalid arguments will not be employed by me anyway and your points will be taken on board. (I never made reference to tax harmonisation during the last campaign as I was not fully sure about it.)
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