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Indeed we do need the EU, but the people of the EU do not need this treaty and given an opportunity would probably reject it.
Indeed we do need the EU, but the people of the EU do not need this treaty and given an opportunity would probably reject it.
So, presumably, on that logic, you favour withdrawing from the EU?
I would probably agree with your speculation above however I think that genuinely the public have seen what happened to countries who isolate themselves and will probably say yes to Lisbon...
I am not saying that it is reason enough to vote yes, but that is my honest opinion...
Actually I think many Irish people have a false view of France, they think of France as Paris but the soul of France is in countryside in the spirit of peasant, these people have been utterly betrayed by the elites in Paris by Socialists who are not socialists and by Republicans who are not republicans. The loyalist Arab tribes who had to find refuge in France after the fall of Algeria, were treated like dirt by the French authorities, whilst Arabs today are allowed to immigrate today in to France, hate the Republic and would murder every non-Muslim in France, if given the opportunity to do so. Who would Ireland be showing solidarity with in voting Oui to Lisbon II, it certainly would not be the people of Vercors, who rose up and defended their land against the Nazis.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F0aW4cRAfk]YouTube - OSS commando at Vercors[/ame]
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Adrian Wainer
Last edited by Adrian Wainer; 10th June 2009 at 09:23 PM.
I don't buy the recession argument. Since Spain voted yes in 2005, unemployment has doubled to 18%. It's sickening to see Fianna Fail try to blame us for a disaster they and their corrupt property developers caused. It also undermines the Opposition's claim to be that when they try to have it both ways as to who is to blame for the recession. Lisbon did not cause a property crash that was already underway before the referendum. We will never surrender to lies of this nature, intended to bully the Irish into surrendering their hardwon sovereignty in a manner similar to how the Aliens Act was used by England to force Scotlland into Union in 1707 - except this time the EU has no tools to blackmail us with. They can't take away free trade because no country can be expelled from the EU. And they cant stop lending through the ECB to irish banks because we share a common currency and if one of our financial systems go down, the others and the euro will follow. I will not be bullied by Quislings, collaborators, traitors and imperial powers.
I think we should be more worried about the Lapps.
We don't want to end up like the reindeer.
*waits excitedly for Adrian Wainer's Youtube video on Santa's war-crimes*
I am only giving my humble opinion. I have discussed this with a good few people who would not be big into politics and most said that seeing what could happen to a country on their own (Iceland) made them realise how important it was to not only be in Europe but to ensure we were at the heart of Europe...
As I said earlier I do not necessarily believe that it is the correct reason to vote yes...or for that matter that it is a reason to vote yes at all but I do believe that this is the type of reasoning which will result in Lisbon II being passed.
Surprisingly true, again.
Personally I don't compare modern politics with WWII events. It creates too much confusion and paroxystic emotion.
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Where do you get that idea from. The reason I ask is because I've seen this kind of thing said before by a few people, yet to this day I haven't seen a shred of evidence (let alone proof) that it is true.
Like two Nos?
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