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    Lisbon Treaty will give extra seat to BNP

    If the Irish vote ‘Yes' in the second referendum on the Lisbon treaty in October and the remaining ratifications are completed, there will, at some point after January 2010, be 754 MEPs – an increase of 18.

    One of those extra seats will go to the U.K. That seat will be allocated to the European Parliament constitutency of West Midlands to give it 7 rather than 6 seats. Based on the results announced minutes ago that extra MEP will go to the far-right British National Party which would have got that 7th seat if West Midlands had seven seats.

    The Socialist group in the European Parliament want those 18 phantom MEPs to be fully paid and have observer status in the European Parliament even pending Lisbon being ratified.
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    I hope that those who advocate a Yes vote to Lisbon will be able to get us comfortable with giving the BNP an extra seat in the European Parliament.

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    How do you know how people in the UK will vote next time?

    This is completely flawed idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc444 View Post
    How do you know how people in the UK will vote next time?

    This is completely flawed idea.
    If Lisbon comes into force before the 2014 European Parliament elections the seat is allocated based on the 2009 results. Try to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papinian View Post
    If the Irish vote ‘Yes' in the second referendum on the Lisbon treaty in October and the remaining ratifications are completed, there will, at some point after January 2010, be 754 MEPs – an increase of 18.

    One of those extra seats will go to the U.K. That seat will be allocated to the European Parliament constitutency of West Midlands to give it 7 rather than 6 seats. Based on the results announced minutes ago that extra MEP will go to the far-right British National Party which would have got that 7th seat if West Midlands had seven seats.

    The Socialist group in the European Parliament want those 18 phantom MEPs to be fully paid and have observer status in the European Parliament even pending Lisbon being ratified.
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    I hope that those who advocate a Yes vote to Lisbon will be able to get us comfortable with giving the BNP an extra seat in the European Parliament.
    If the people decided that the next MEP comes from the BNP, that's their right. It is called democracy.

    What has that got to do with Lisbon? You are not so much scraping the bottom of barrel as having scraped through it and out the other side at this stage.

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    Are you trying to win a prize for the most number of idiotic threads created in the one night?

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    I think my anger towards these anti-Lisbon loolahs is slowly morphing into pity.

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    This thread is just pathetic.

    Look if the Britsh people vote in the BNP, that is their choice and it is up for Ireland to decide who they vote for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc444 View Post
    This thread is just pathetic.

    Look if the Britsh people vote in the BNP, that is their choice and it is up for Ireland to decide who they vote for.
    Your response is fair enough and I actually agree with it. However, I think that it's also fair enough for me to flag up one of the consequences of ratification which is not immediately obvious. It's a consequence that you obviously weren't aware of, nor I suspect are most other people. I don't agree that Lisbon should be decided on arguments about short-term effects - and both anti-Lisbon and pro-Lisbon types are guilty of such arguments.

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    The problem is not the BNP, the problem is the disgusting national sovereignity stealing European Constitution, AKA Lisbon II. The Labour Party in Britain is not described as an extremist Party, yet they are in an Axis partnership with Saudi Arabia, which advocates the extermination of the Jewish people and the overthrow of democratic liberal democratic governance in Britain. On the other hand, the BNP is fighting for the rights of peoples of all colors and all religions and people of no religion to live in a Britain, in which core freedoms are robustly defended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papinian View Post
    Your response is fair enough and I actually agree with it. However, I think that it's also fair enough for me to flag up one of the consequences of ratification which is not immediately obvious. It's a consequence that you obviously weren't aware of, nor I suspect are most other people. I don't agree that Lisbon should be decided on arguments about short-term effects - and both anti-Lisbon and pro-Lisbon types are guilty of such arguments.
    I love how you completely ignored post number 3 there.

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