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    EU states ask Ireland to set referendum date

    IRELAND’S EUROPEAN partners have asked the Government to set a date for the second referendum on the Lisbon Treaty at next month’s EU leaders’ summit in Brussels.

    The request was made at an EU foreign ministers meeting yesterday, where member states agreed to provide “robust” legal guarantees to try to persuade Irish voters to back the treaty.

    “We understand how these guarantees are important for the Irish . . . should be robust enough to dispel the concerns of Irish citizens,” said Czech European affairs minister Stefan Fule, whose country holds the rotating presidency of the EU.

    He said he thought the Government should announce the date of a second Lisbon referendum at the June council, provided the necessary guarantees were in place.

    The Government wants its EU partners to sign up to texts providing legal guarantees that the Lisbon Treaty does not affect its sovereignty over tax, defence and ethical issues such as abortion and family life. It also wants them to agree to a declaration – which does not have the same legal standing as the guarantees – on the importance of workers’ rights.

    Research conducted by the Government after the No vote in the first Lisbon referendum last June indicated these were the issues of primary concern to the Irish electorate. The texts of the guarantees are almost complete and will be finalised before the EU summit.

    Minister of State for European Affairs Dick Roche, who represented the Government at the meeting in Brussels, said he received “amazingly positive statements supporting our efforts to conclude the guarantees” from fellow ministers.

    EU states ask Ireland to set referendum date - The Irish Times - Tue, May 19, 2009

    Well it looks like we will know next month what the date will be.

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    Are the propocols written? Are the declarations here yet? Has Dick Roche carried the copies of the declarations home with him?

    NO?

    The Lisbon Treaty was negotiated by failed politicians. It was written for a failed economic project. It failed. A bunch of failing politicians are still trying to sell it to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomás sharkey View Post
    Are the propocols written? Are the declarations here yet? Has Dick Roche carried the copies of the declarations home with him?

    NO?

    The Lisbon Treaty was negotiated by failed politicians. It was written for a failed economic project. It failed. A bunch of failing politicians are still trying to sell it to us.
    Then why are you running in europe

    Tomás Sharkey | Sinn Féin EU Election Headquarters

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmrebel View Post
    IRELAND’S EUROPEAN partners have asked the Government to set a date for the second referendum on the Lisbon Treaty at next month’s EU leaders’ summit in Brussels.

    The request was made at an EU foreign ministers meeting yesterday, where member states agreed to provide “robust” legal guarantees to try to persuade Irish voters to back the treaty.

    “We understand how these guarantees are important for the Irish . . . should be robust enough to dispel the concerns of Irish citizens,” said Czech European affairs minister Stefan Fule, whose country holds the rotating presidency of the EU.

    He said he thought the Government should announce the date of a second Lisbon referendum at the June council, provided the necessary guarantees were in place.

    The Government wants its EU partners to sign up to texts providing legal guarantees that the Lisbon Treaty does not affect its sovereignty over tax, defence and ethical issues such as abortion and family life. It also wants them to agree to a declaration – which does not have the same legal standing as the guarantees – on the importance of workers’ rights.

    Research conducted by the Government after the No vote in the first Lisbon referendum last June indicated these were the issues of primary concern to the Irish electorate. The texts of the guarantees are almost complete and will be finalised before the EU summit.

    Minister of State for European Affairs Dick Roche, who represented the Government at the meeting in Brussels, said he received “amazingly positive statements supporting our efforts to conclude the guarantees” from fellow ministers.

    EU states ask Ireland to set referendum date - The Irish Times - Tue, May 19, 2009

    Well it looks like we will know next month what the date will be.
    Before or after the 5th? Or should I ask! O to be one of those zombies who only consume information from bebo and MTV, they don't have to worry about this rubbish.

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    The answer is still NO
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    Quote:
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    Are the propocols written? Are the declarations here yet? Has Dick Roche carried the copies of the declarations home with him?

    NO?

    The Lisbon Treaty was negotiated by failed politicians. It was written for a failed economic project. It failed. A bunch of failing politicians are still trying to sell it to us.

    Then why are you running in europe

    Tomás Sharkey | Sinn Féin EU Election Headquarters


    Thanks for the plug mm! I am running for Europe in Ireland East because we need a NEW Treaty for a NEW time. Everyone knows there is a need for change. THe old and tired MEPs in Ireland East have nothing nw to offer only a re hash of what is stale and rejected.

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    Listen Dick,

    It's a NO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmrebel View Post
    Then why are you running in europe

    Tomás Sharkey | Sinn Féin EU Election Headquarters
    That's a very fetching green she's wearing too. (with apologies if I'm insulting anyone, can't help it)

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    Are we not a sovereign state? Is it any of their business. Anyway we had a referendum on June 12th 2008. We don't need another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomás sharkey View Post
    I am running for Europe in Ireland East because we need a NEW Treaty for a NEW time. Everyone knows there is a need for change. THe old and tired MEPs in Ireland East have nothing nw to offer only a re hash of what is stale and rejected.
    SF opposed Irish membership of the EEC and have opposed every EU treaty since.

    I hope you're being honest enough with the electorate to tell them this.

    If not, you're just another tired failing politician Tomás.

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