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When will the right realise their little constitution is dead?, holy or unholy, its gone to the next worl
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When will the right realise their little constitution is dead?, holy or unholy, its gone to the next worl
Sovereignty is Democracy
Well there are many on 'the right' who do not support the idea of a constitution for the EU. I also cannot see in the article the reference to a "holy text". I know it is referred to in the headline but in the article itself those words were not mentioned. Now, maybe he did say it, but those words are not in that article.Originally Posted by MacCoise
MJ Coughlan,
Waterford City.
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Its in the first sentence!--Well there are many on 'the right' who do not support the idea of a constitution for the EU. I also cannot see in the article the reference to a "holy text". I know it is referred to in the headline but in the article itself those words were not mentioned. Now, maybe he did say it, but those words are not in that article.
The EU constitution is a “holy text”, the leader of the European parliament’s centre right Hans-Gert Poettering told the Pope on Thursday.
Sovereignty is Democracy
But where did he actually say that?Its in the first sentence!--Well there are many on 'the right' who do not support the idea of a constitution for the EU. I also cannot see in the article the reference to a "holy text". I know it is referred to in the headline but in the article itself those words were not mentioned. Now, maybe he did say it, but those words are not in that article.
The EU constitution is a “holy text”, the leader of the European parliament’s centre right Hans-Gert Poettering told the Pope on Thursday.
MJ Coughlan,
Waterford City.
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The Constitution is not dead; it's just taking a nap and IMO it will eventually pass and we will see a fully federal europe in our lifetime.
Bazinga!
Some hope, sunshine! The high point of Euro-idealism is long passed; it is clear that the populations of Europe want to remain in a federation of nation-statesThe Constitution is not dead; it's just taking a nap and IMO it will eventually pass and we will see a fully federal europe in our lifetime.
CJH, I think, is right. Many of us seem to overestimate the appetite for the euro ideal that exists on the continent. Just because French politicians, for example, are pro-EU, it doesn't necessarily follow that the French people are the same. I think most of the new member-states in the east would not tend to be overly enthusiastic about the idea of a United States of Europe.Some hope, sunshine! The high point of Euro-idealism is long passed; it is clear that the populations of Europe want to remain in a federation of nation-statesThe Constitution is not dead; it's just taking a nap and IMO it will eventually pass and we will see a fully federal europe in our lifetime.
MJ Coughlan,
Waterford City.
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Depends on how it's sold, mj.CJH, I think, is right. Many of us seem to overestimate the appetite for the euro ideal that exists on the continent. Just because French politicians, for example, are pro-EU, it doesn't necessarily follow that the French people are the same. I think most of the new member-states in the east would not tend to be overly enthusiastic about the idea of a United States of Europe.Some hope, sunshine! The high point of Euro-idealism is long passed; it is clear that the populations of Europe want to remain in a federation of nation-statesThe Constitution is not dead; it's just taking a nap and IMO it will eventually pass and we will see a fully federal europe in our lifetime.
Take pensions for example. The Germans, French and Italians are facing a grave shortage of cash for to pay their pensions. If a federal Europe were to pay their pensions using the taxes collected from 300 odd million taxpayers in other EU states, you might see a change of attitude.
I'm not saying it would be like this but you can see how an attractive offer can be made and packaged.
Bazinga!
Craoladh agallamh spéisiúil le hAlan Dukes ar Raidió na Gaeltachta ag am lóin inniú inar admhaigh sé go hoscailte go bhfuil an bunreacht marbh agus nach bhfuil seans dá laghad ann gur féidir an téacs céanna a chur faoi bhráid vótóirí na Fraince in athuair.
An mórlocht a bhí ar an mbunreacht, dar leis, go bhfuil sé ró-fhada agus nach bhfuil daoine sásta tacú le téacs nach dtuigeann siad; is é an réiteach a mhol sé ná bunreacht nua a dhréachtadh a bheadh i bhfad níos giorra agus níos soléite.
Seán a' Chóta
"Níl ach líon beag fear ar aithne againn, agus líon mór cótaí is brístí." Thoreau
Scríobh Seán a' Chóta
Ar bhealach amháin aontaím le Alan Dukes. Bhí an céad dréacht ró-fhada agus ró chasta ach is féidir an rud ceanann céanna a rá faoi gach conradh eile lena ghlac muintir na hEorpa. 'Sé an fhadhb is mó nó go raibh an Aontas Eorpach ag athrú ró sciopthe agus ag méadu ar bealaigh go raibh faitíos ar go leor daoine go rabhadar ag cailliúint smacht ar cúrsaí. Leis sin, mar fo-théacs de dhiúltiu an Bunreacht sa Fhrainc agus san Ísiltír, bhi faitíos ar daoine roimh ballraíocht na Tuirce sa todhchaí.An mórlocht a bhí ar an mbunreacht, dar leis, go bhfuil sé ró-fhada agus nach bhfuil daoine sásta tacú le téacs nach dtuigeann siad; is é an réiteach a mhol sé ná bunreacht nua a dhréachtadh a bheadh i bhfad níos giorra agus níos soléite.
Ní dhéanfaidh dréacht níos simplí réiteach ar bith ar na fadhbanna sin.
