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Thread: Government in Ireland is a mess: Better say Yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by He3 View Post
    Government in Ireland is a mess. The ripe stench of incompetence and corruption wafts through the corridors of power. People die on trolleys, others lose their homes, flee the country, cower from the thought police.

    Reason enough to vote Yes to Lisbon in the Neverendum?
    I cannot believe the arguments expressed by some people on this site. The idea that the Irish people are no longer capable of running their own Nation and that we should surrender our legislative process to europe is absurd. The idea that Irish men and woman would willfully choose the abandon our nation in favour of a foreign government is frankly digusting.

    I understand the country is in a bad state of affairs at the moment but I have an undying faith in the Irish people and I believe that the Irish people themselves through hard work, adaptability and ingenuity will return this nation it the glory days.
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    They also retain control of our money. Slush fund fronts like Fas continue on their way.

    The EU and FF understand each other perfectly.
    'Personally, I find the notion of changing our constitution in exchange for a loan absolutely disgusting'. - Tin Foil Hat

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    There is a precedent for this sort of thing: Newfoundland threw in the towel in a 1949 referendum and voted by 52% to 48% to join Canada as its tenth province.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurosceptic View Post
    Dr.Bob A 2nd no would collapse the government and force a general election. It would be the end of brian cowen as a credible leader.
    When was Cowen ever credible ??????

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    Last couple of days - I think this feeling of giving up on our ability to govern ourselves is a real feature in many people's minds.
    'Personally, I find the notion of changing our constitution in exchange for a loan absolutely disgusting'. - Tin Foil Hat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    Untrue. Rubbish. Twaddle. It is quite easy to see why this is so.........feck it .......I am sick of explaining this. New Zealand.Switzerland. Norway etc etc. A well run country seen to be well run would not suffer a run on its currency.
    But, Clanny, Ireland is neither.
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    I'm Voting YES as we have proven we are unable that we are unable to Govern ourselves

    As the revelations keep coming every day, showing NOTHING has changed since we went wallop and the chrony/corrupt culture still exists at every corner while our hospitals have to close their doors for 1 whole day on end..etc etc..

    ...We have proven beyonod a shadow of a doubt that we are not mature enough to govern ourselves with any credibility or sense of social justice.

    Bring on Brussels and all its Beurocracy and the germans I say!!! Ive lived there and they have a proper Public Transport System and Modern Schools without damp and rats and nobody waiting on trolleys in their A&E's !
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    Apologies for the double speak in the Thread heading..I got distracted while typing it : 0
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    I voted yes too, I say, I voted yes too.

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    This is a live issue today isn't it?
    'Personally, I find the notion of changing our constitution in exchange for a loan absolutely disgusting'. - Tin Foil Hat

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