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    Sound familiar? Basis of british 1975 yes campaign was personal attacks

    The lisbon yes campaign it seems is a tried and trusted formula developed for the 1975 british referendum on eec membership. The yes campaign's treasurer Alastair McAlpine admits that personal attacks on the no campaigners rather than positive arguements for the eec was the bedrock of the yes campaign. It was designed to create a general unease in the public psyche about anyone argueing for a no. Thus the messenger and not the message would not be believed. This is most pertinent in respect of libertas and decko. When he supported the yes side at nice not a single question was asked, not a column inch in the irish times or a second on rte. Personal attacks have indeed been the bedrock of irish yes campaigns i expect the next one to be just the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurosceptic View Post
    The lisbon yes campaign it seems is a tried and trusted formula developed for the 1975 british referendum on eec membership. The yes campaign's treasurer Alastair McAlpine admits that personal attacks on the no campaigners rather than positive arguements for the eec was the bedrock of the yes campaign. It was designed to create a general unease in the public psyche about anyone argueing for a no. Thus the messenger and not the message would not be believed. This is most pertinent in respect of libertas and decko. When he supported the yes side at nice not a single question was asked, not a column inch in the irish times or a second on rte. Personal attacks have indeed been the bedrock of irish yes campaigns i expect the next one to be just the same.

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    How much longer can this Libertas thing last before even the most naive of voters get bored of the propaganda and empty rhetoric. Its entertaining at times, I'll give them that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurosceptic View Post
    This is most pertinent in respect of libertas and decko. When he supported the yes side at nice not a single question was asked, not a column inch in the irish times or a second on rte.
    that is because nobody knew who he was back then! did he campaign for Nice? Did he spend huge amounts of his own money on the Nice campaign?

    that is a ridiculous point. he put himself and his views into the public sphere for Lisbon, he did not do this during the Nice treaty campaigns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurosceptic View Post
    The lisbon yes campaign it seems is a tried and trusted formula developed for the 1975 british referendum on eec membership. The yes campaign's treasurer Alastair McAlpine admits that personal attacks on the no campaigners rather than positive arguements for the eec was the bedrock of the yes campaign. It was designed to create a general unease in the public psyche about anyone argueing for a no. Thus the messenger and not the message would not be believed. This is most pertinent in respect of libertas and decko. When he supported the yes side at nice not a single question was asked, not a column inch in the irish times or a second on rte. Personal attacks have indeed been the bedrock of irish yes campaigns i expect the next one to be just the same.

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    Quite right, it is 'play the man' time, plus crank up the fear for all it's worth also. And indeed, the same happened in Britain for their one and only referendum, Tony Benn came in for 'the treatment' among others, if I remember correctly...

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    Only one organisation put up billboard posters attacking people who were actively campaigning in the run up to the referendum on the treaty. That organisation is called Libertas. Personal attacks indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    crank up the fear for all it's worth
    I'm not suggesting that 'fear' tactics don't work, we have already seen that they do (see link)

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    However I find it ironic that eurosceptic claims dodgy Dec supported Nice, yet is willing to pay 1.5mill putting up posters telling us to vote against Lisbon, and keep our commissioner, when in fact if we did vote against Lisbon we would apparently loose our commissioner anyway under Nice, which eurosceptic claims Ganley supported in the first place.

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    It's all very well giving out about people focussing on those arguing for a No rather than on the No arguments, but really, surely anyone planning to Vote No should seriously consider why certain lobbyists are on the same side as them? And why the mainstream is on the Yes side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuchToDo View Post
    It's all very well giving out about people focussing on those arguing for a No rather than on the No arguments, but really, surely anyone planning to Vote No should seriously consider why certain lobbyists are on the same side as them? And why the mainstream is on the Yes side?
    Bertie Ahern is on your side. No more needs to be added.

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