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    Libertas attempt to Answer Ouestions on Declan Ganley Past at new website

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    It would appear that Libertas have decided to address some of our concerns. However even the one thing that should have been easy to answer is left in a viel of contradictions


    “Mr. Ganley’s involvement in Albania left many thousands impoverished”

    This story is the result of false rumours and originates from unreliable Albanian web sites. In 1996, Declan Ganley was involved in the creation of the Anglo-Adriatic Investment fund. The fund’s role was to help Albanian Citizens benefit from the privatisation of Albanian state assets during the transition period from Communism.

    The Anglo-Adriatic Investment Fund was never involved in the fraud associated with so-called pyramid banks or pyramid schemes. Indeed it actively campaigned against such pyramid schemes and called for them to be shut down.

    Anglo-Adriatic was established as the only licensed ‘privatisation voucher’ fund-holding entity. The Albanian government were to identify a number of state-owned assets of appropriate value that were to be privatised by way of a voucher privatisation process. A limited number of vouchers were issued to almost every household in Albania and the concept was that the vouchers should be exchanged for a share of the assets to be privatised by the Albanian government.

    The objective of the Anglo-Adriatic fund, as provided for in government legislation, was to pool privatisation vouchers owned by Albanian voucher holders and to enter into discussions with potential foreign investors who would bring cash, expertise and other assets. The result was intended to be privatised assets derived from the voucher holders’ shares that had the benefit of external investment and know how to create added value for all shareholders.

    Albanian voucher holders who took the option of pooling vouchers with Anglo Adriatic deposited their vouchers in the Savings Bank of Albania (the appointed custodian bank for Anglo Adriatic). This was part of the licensing conditions for Anglo Adriatic. That is to say, Anglo Adriatic could never actually physically hold those vouchers. Every single voucher placed into the fund in this manner is still in physical existence today in the bank vaults controlled by the Albanian Central Bank. Not one single voucher investor has ‘lost’ their holding as the holding exists and is secured in a vault belonging to Raiffeisen Bank under the control of the Albanian Central Bank. Anglo-Adriatic has made multiple attempts to have subsequent governments of Albania offer assets of appropriate value in exchange for those vouchers.

    Unfortunately, the Albanian government has not done this to date. In deference to the Albanian government, there have been some mitigating circumstances. In 1997, the collapse of the aforementioned pyramid schemes led to massive civil unrest and a state of near civil war. This break down in civil law and order resulted in a mass evacuation of foreign nationals carried out by NATO forces including Italian, British, US, French and other forces. Anglo-Adriatic staff were airlifted by the US Marine Corps (who were responsible for securing the sector of Tirana where Anglo Adriatic’s office was located) and flown to safety on the USS Nassau which was stationed in the Adriatic. It is hoped and anticipated that the Albanian government will eventually find an appropriate mechanism to honour and redeem the Anglo Adriatic related vouchers and thus provide those voucher holders with appropriate value for their holdings.
    No where here does Declan Ganley address the fact that he told the Guardian newspaper , published 23 May 2008 that he also had 40,000 foreign investors in Anglo Adriatic Investment Fund. So where are their investments?
    He also fudges saying "In 1996, Declan Ganley was involved in the creation of the Anglo-Adriatic Investment fund". That's a bit weak, it was a Ganley Group company owed mostly by him.

    re the airlift, this is contradicted by the fact that as of April 1997 The Observer reported Ganley flying into and not out of Albanian and also that he was holding meeting with "Albanian chancers".
    This does not even begin to address the concerns about Albania or anything else.

    But I am glad that they can see that we do demand Transparency!! Not Libertas's Politics not facts approach

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    If there was wrongdoing in the Albanian case then I would suspect it has to do with dodgy Albanian politicians rather than Ganley. Albania is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. That does not mean that everyone who does business with the Albanian govt deserves to be tarred with the same brush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    If there was wrongdoing in the Albanian case then I would suspect it has to do with dodgy Albanian politicians rather than Ganley. Albania is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. That does not mean that everyone who does business with the Albanian govt deserves to be tarred with the same brush.
    Yeah a nice place to head and do business when there a bullets falling. Declan does go in for "emerging markets", I guess it's for the same reason.

    However the point is what about the 40,000 non Albanian investors? What did they invest? hardly privatisation vouchers?

    The other point is that the answers as lacking in detail or transparency as Cookies posts here on P.ie when he defends his leader.

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    NO where does it say that Ganley made no money from the Anglo Adriatic or if he still owns it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    If there was wrongdoing in the Albanian case then I would suspect it has to do with dodgy Albanian politicians rather than Ganley. Albania is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. That does not mean that everyone who does business with the Albanian govt deserves to be tarred with the same brush.
    but ganley seems to go out of his way to seek out these kind of messed up corrupt places.

    where he knows at the end of the day
    there's very likely to be many more impoverished Albanians, ganley was involved in that.
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    I'm getting very tired of personal smears against Declan Ganley.
    Is there any chance anyone on the Yes side, can justify re-running a valid democratic referendum on the exact same Lisbon Treaty?

    I thought not. Hence......get Ganley and then .....
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    the no side are fed up with ganley too ya know
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    Quote Originally Posted by brio910 View Post
    I'm getting very tired of personal smears against Declan Ganley.
    Is there any chance anyone on the Yes side, can justify re-running a valid democratic referendum on the exact same Lisbon Treaty?

    I thought not. Hence......get Ganley and then .....
    It's our democratically elected government's constitutionally prescribed competence to do it if it wants to, and it wants to.

    There you go.
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    It's amazing that the self-same critics who accuse Ganley of using Lisbon as a self-promotion vehicle are doing more promoting of his name, and keeping it constantly in the media, than he could ever hope to himself.

    I'm so bored of it now, yet it's still here ad nauseam. It's like a fetish club...

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