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    Consequences of a second 'No' vote...

    What will it be? Will be effectively asked to leave the EU?
    Will inward investment dry up quicker?
    Will farmers be driven out of business?

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    No we won't be asked to leave the EU.

    The EU project gets saved from disaster by the Irish with space & time created for a Europe that the people actually want to be discussed.

    In Ireland we will see the defeat of old style nonsense politics and the beginning of something new and better.

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    The consequences will be the same as after the first vote. Nothing material will change. We continue under Nice. Some parliamentarians go bananas, some others wear funny jumpers. Barrosso gives a speech ignoring the result completely. Sarkozy throws a hissy fit. We vote again in 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixer View Post
    What will it be?
    The EU Commission will self-combust.

    The Belgian economy will collapse.

    Will be effectively asked to leave the EU?
    They still need our fisheries.

    Will inward investment dry up quicker?
    No. It will increase.

    Cowen will be finished, if he is not already gone by then.

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    although nothing formally will change, the other 26 will adopt a new treaty effectively leaving us outside the real EU

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    a third vote?
    What does the Irish President spend their time doing. Work in progress
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixer View Post
    What will it be? Will be effectively asked to leave the EU?
    Will inward investment dry up quicker?
    Will farmers be driven out of business?

    Nothing immediate will happen. However, the principle of consensus will slowly be pushed aside and an inner core of EU countries will develop. This will most probably take the shape of an 'opt-in' Treaty within 2-4 years.

    The more immediate consequence is for the EU rather than Ireland. Institutional naval gazing will continue for several more years while real problems get put on the back burner. You live in Europe as well as Ireland, so you concerns should be with Europe too.

    The idea that another No is going to cause some sort of seismic shift in European politics is a notion generally entertained by crackpots and people who think the world is waiting for them to arrive on the stage.
    A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.

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    If we vote No again which I believe we will, the ruling class will try an even more undemocratic route of passing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post

    They still need our fisheries.
    The fisheries will be easily bought.

    They know they we don't have a big enough fleet to exploit them, that our farmers depend on Europe and that they can threaten us with massive tarrif barriers if we won't do business.

    How do you think they were bought in the first place?
    A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostexpectation View Post
    a third vote?

    Exactly!

    Nothing more, nothing less.


    And if Europe doesn't like it's people, let it dissolve them and elect a new one.
    Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.

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