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    Irish Citizens Denied Vote in Lisbon Referenda

    The decision to re-run the referendum on the rejected Lisbon Treaty in the 26-Counties next October represents an attempt to subvert the sovereign will of the People, a spokesman for Republican Sinn Féin has said.

    “All kinds of pressure is being applied to those allowed to vote to ensure that they arrive at the result Brian Cowen and the EU 'élite' demand.

    “Already a large section of the Irish population are denied their say on the issue. Nobody living under British occupation is permitted to vote, despite being Irish citizens who are resident in Ireland. Of course the fact that a majority of people in the Six Counties are opposed to the direction of the EU – including many who oppose the EU project entirely – means that this situation suits the Dublin administration.

    “However, they were prepared to turn a blind eye to the non-resident former head of the 26-County administration, John Bruton – now the EU's representative in the United States – illegally casting a ballot in favour of the rebranded EU Constitution.

    “The Dublin administration should have the decency to admit that Lisbon is dead instead of engaging in the same cynical exercise of a second referendum as was the case following the rejection of the Treaty of Nice.”
    "I hereby declare that the Continuity Executive and the Continuity Army Council are the lawful Executive and Army Council respectively of the Irish Republican Army, and that the governmental authority, delegated in the Proclamation of 1938, now resides in the Continuity Army Council, and its lawful successors."

    Comdt. General Thomas Maguire

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    Discuss.

    (I agree with what has been said above.)
    "I hereby declare that the Continuity Executive and the Continuity Army Council are the lawful Executive and Army Council respectively of the Irish Republican Army, and that the governmental authority, delegated in the Proclamation of 1938, now resides in the Continuity Army Council, and its lawful successors."

    Comdt. General Thomas Maguire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risteard View Post
    Discuss.

    (I agree with what has been said above.)
    whats to discuss ? irrelevant lunatic fringe makes meaningless statement...... kinda hard to discuss that really

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    Can we assume that you are that spokesman? You don't give a name or a link to where he said it so we can only assume it is your personal opinion. Clearly then we don't need you to reassure us that what you say is in fact your opinion. You don't need to kid us that there are more members of RSF than there are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbob1972 View Post
    whats to discuss ? irrelevant lunatic fringe makes meaningless statement...... kinda hard to discuss that really
    There's no 'fringe', its just:

    'irrelevant lunatic makes meaningless statement'
    A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risteard View Post
    including many who oppose the EU project entirely
    Thats because they read too many British newspapers.
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    I said yesterday that I thought all Irish citizens should have a vote in constitutional referenda regardless of whether they live in Bray, Belfast, Berlin or Boston.

    Dail votes are about the day to day management of the country and its direction and as such they only really affect those living in Ireland. Constitutional referenda change the nature of a person's citizenship and should be open to everyone with citizenship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    Thats because they read too many British newspapers.
    Or because they're not 'loo-lahs'.
    "I hereby declare that the Continuity Executive and the Continuity Army Council are the lawful Executive and Army Council respectively of the Irish Republican Army, and that the governmental authority, delegated in the Proclamation of 1938, now resides in the Continuity Army Council, and its lawful successors."

    Comdt. General Thomas Maguire

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    Quote Originally Posted by locke View Post
    I said yesterday that I thought all Irish citizens should have a vote in constitutional referenda regardless of whether they live in Bray, Belfast, Berlin or Boston.

    Dail votes are about the day to day management of the country and its direction and as such they only really affect those living in Ireland. Constitutional referenda change the nature of a person's citizenship and should be open to everyone with citizenship.
    Passing (or not) the Lisbon Treaty has a far greater effect on non citizens who are ordinarily resident within the State than it does on Irish citizens who are not.

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    It will affect all Irish citizens living in Ireland equally, not merely those "resident within the State."
    "I hereby declare that the Continuity Executive and the Continuity Army Council are the lawful Executive and Army Council respectively of the Irish Republican Army, and that the governmental authority, delegated in the Proclamation of 1938, now resides in the Continuity Army Council, and its lawful successors."

    Comdt. General Thomas Maguire

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