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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis View Post
    Of course - but then nobody has ever presented any evidence for that one.
    Never ever?

    What is the point of voting Red or Black or Green when 80 per cent of your laws come, not from the German Parliament or Government, but from Brussels?

    That is not my figure: it comes from the German Federal Justice Ministry. In reply to a question by Johannes Singhammer, MP for the CSU, ministers were forced to concede that, out of 23,167 legislative acts passed since 1998, nearly 19,000 originated in the EU.
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    Of course, this figure can be dissected in a number of ways but I would agree with this analysis, which repeats research available in a pdf

    [FONT=Frutiger-Roman][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][FONT=Frutiger-Roman]Open Europe also shows that while the [/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=2][FONT=Frutiger-Roman]EU accounts for around 50 percent of the [/FONT][/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Frutiger-Italic][SIZE=2][FONT=Frutiger-Italic][SIZE=2]number [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Frutiger-Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Frutiger-Roman][SIZE=2]of UK regulations, the EU share of the [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Frutiger-Italic][SIZE=2][FONT=Frutiger-Italic][SIZE=2]cost [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Frutiger-Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Frutiger-Roman][SIZE=2]of those [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Frutiger-Roman][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][FONT=Frutiger-Roman]regulations is far higher. Of the cumulative cost of [/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=2][FONT=Frutiger-Roman]regulation, £106.6 billion, or just under 72 percent,[/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=2][FONT=Frutiger-Roman]had its origin in the EU.[/FONT][/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    Never ever?
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    Of course, this figure can be dissected in a number of ways but I would agree with this analysis, which repeats research available in a pdf
    Indeed, and would you like to actually cite the evidence that those pieces refer to? I can see that people say that someone said something, but I don't see any reference to it itself - and I'm a little wary of that, because it suggests that there may be more in the text than we're being told. Is that all German legislation, or does it represent only "Acts" as opposed to "Statutory Instruments" (or German equivalents thereof)? Does the total include legislation by the Lander? How was it determined whether a piece of legislation was European or not? And, most importantly, where is the original estimate?

    As to the Irish situation, I'm happy enough with the recent Generation Yes estimate of 28% maximum of Irish legislation - it agrees with research I did myself last year using the Irish Statute Book, although I came to a lower figure by using only Acts and SI's that mentioned Europe in the title, whereas they have apparently used the full texts.
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