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About LinkBacksYou do whatever you like - it doesn't make your last post any less ridiculous. The "points" you make in it just aren't worth responding to.Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
You do whatever you like - it doesn't make your last post any less ridiculous. The "points" you make in it just aren't worth responding to.
What absolute garbage. So you believe that it undermines the essence of democracy that Ireland has voted multiple times in referendums on issues like: the electoral system, abortion, divorce etc.? As the divorce referendums proved: opinions can change. Thank god for that. Otherwise, we would be bound for eternity to results that reflected a particular mood at a specific point in time. Does it undermine the essence of democracy that parliaments the world over vote on the same legislative proposals countless times? For me it is the essence of democracy to accept that political decisions can be wrong and therefore should open to challenge.
As for your point about US elections. First of all, they are elections, not legislative decisions. Second of all - do you forget Bush 1? If only Gore's people had had the balls to follow through with a proper challenge the world might be an altogether different place 8-years on.
To paraphrase an earlier poster: "what utter tripe".
Don't you mean paedophiles? We need paediatricians.
A BIG FAT NO TO ANY NEW EU TREATY
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MERKOZY CAN GO TO HELL!!
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Healthcare is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege!!!
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADbTCSuNSms]Just wait for the budget tomorrow after this rant!!!![/ame]
They're entitled to their opinion, but that's all it is.
Exactly my point.
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.
They'd have a greater chance of toilet training a Wild bear than have this happen.
As regards to having another vote on Lisbon I think it would be a mistake as it would be rejected again . I believe that the Irish public should first educate themselves on what the whole EU is about ,there needs to be a better understanding of what the EU does and what it has achieved. There must be civil responsibility on self education about Europe and what it means for Ireland .
We cannot expect people to understand Europe when the media coverage is after midnight .
The EU has been good to Ireland but people do have fears but only because they do not understand it and how the different institutions work .
The people against Europe have other motives and are puppets for those who dislike a peaceful passive Europe .
Europe and the European Parliament push a lot of paper around but lets ask ourselves is pushing paper around not better than firing rockets and bullets at each other ?
Peace in Europe that is what we have and why would we really want to change that?
People should go visit the many war graves around Europe and the millions that died in senseless wars and then ask those who opposed Lisbon why ?
The Lisbon treaty was the treaty with the least amount of changes to affect us but people believed the lies of those puppets on a mission to destroy the movement that brought us peace .
Nothing that was in Lisbon would have a negative outcome on our lives but now we are in uncertain times and we have a real danger of been left behind .
Care to point out EXACTLY what is tripe? Everything FT has said is true. I am tired of listening to people equating the Commisssion with the Civil Service in ireland. It is simply not the case. Eiother you are ignorant of what they do or you are deliberately ignoring what is in front of you. Like I said please point out the tripe and back it up with facts.Complete tripe from start to finish - you simply haven't a bull's notion what you're talking about.
I really would like for you and ibis and Drogheda Sount and others to be flys on the wall when these guys are discussing their polcies. It is mind boggling what they say and do and there is no, I repeat no oversight. FT's idea of elected auditors is a good one regarding auditros. You might no the EU's auditros haven;t signed off on their budget for 11 years. Do you think that is a sign of healthy functioning democratic body? And guess what? When one brave lady did blow the whistle she was sacked.
It is hypocritical for feminists and intellectuals to enjoy the pleasures and conveniences of capitalism while sneering at it.-Camille Paglia
eurocitizan i have news for you. There isnt going to be a WW3, the imperial powers have figured out that individually they are ordinary nations but collectively they are a superpower again. So this tired arguement that "at least they arent at war" has long run its course. Eurobureacracy/Eurocorruption is at criminal levels.
