Peter Sutherland ,Lisbon and the Establishment.

[dub006]

Peter Sutherland campaigned vigourously for a Yes vote.

As far as I know this man does nt live in Ireland .
As chairman of BP he presided over the operation of oil plants in Texas where fire and explosions killed many workers.BP were recognised by most commentators to run safety for workers as a low priority .

Sutherland made a speech about a year ago reported on in the Irish newspapers where he was critical of the Irish people who had reservations about immigration into Ireland post Nice.

This man has been uniquely privelaged and had the inside track all through his life .It appears he did nt have to break a sweat.Fair enough until he starts berating the ungrateful peasants who were against this treaty.

Ganly of Libertas was constantly under the spotlight from the Yes side....accusations such as he is a CIA agent ,A US neo Liberal, allied to the US military etc.

This topic is to shine a light on sutherland and if people have observations ,facts and anlaysis on this man please post them.

He appears to me a shady figure who comes into focus in Ireland when the establishment want him to bat for some cause of theirs.

[CookieMonster]

pfft, whatever his is/was or however he was funded I believe he managed to do more harm than good.

[Rocky]

Peter Sudentland didn't run a campaign for the Treaty. He didn't pour a load of his own money into organisation to try to affect the result in anyway. For that reason he can't be compared to Gangley.

Really a former Irish EU Commissioner who therefore knows a lot about the EU and who strongly supports the EU and the Lisbon Treaty. He’s no different really from Garret FitzGearld for example.

[Bobert]

Peter Sudentland didn't run a campaign for the Treaty. He didn't pour a load of his own money into organisation to try to affect the result in anyway. For that reason he can't be compared to Gangley.

Really a former Irish EU Commissioner who therefore knows a lot about the EU and who strongly supports the EU and the Lisbon Treaty. He’s no different really from Garret FitzGearld for example.

You mean Petey is also a blithering idiot?

[Catalpa]

Strange that he didn't offer his services to the YES camp.

I would have thought a man of his financial acumen would have acted as a countweight to Mr Ganley's opposition to the Treaty.

He doesn't live in our Country anymore so he's speaking through the opposite end to his mouth when he harps on about the effects of Immigration here.

Intelligent but with a complete lack of understanding of what makes the Irish People tick IMO.

[Vega1447]

Peter Sutherland campaigned vigourously for a Yes vote.

As far as I know this man does nt live in Ireland .
As chairman of BP he presided over the operation of oil plants in Texas where fire and explosions killed many workers.BP were recognised by most commentators to run safety for workers as a low priority .

[color=#FF0000]Yup, you'd expect the chairman of one of the largest oil companies in the world to be more hands-on allright.
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Sutherland made a speech about a year ago reported on in the Irish newspapers where he was critical of the Irish people who had reservations about immigration into Ireland post Nice.

[color=#FF0000]Damn him - critical, eh. Wait till we get our hands on the fiend.
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This man has been uniquely privelaged and had the inside track all through his life .It appears he did nt have to break a sweat.Fair enough until he starts berating the ungrateful peasants who were against this treaty.

[color=#FF0000]Berating as well. You've certainly got the dirt on him - well done[/color]..

Ganly of Libertas was constantly under the spotlight from the Yes side....accusations such as he is a CIA agent ,A US neo Liberal, allied to the US military etc.

[color=#FF0000]And not a word of truth in any of those allegations..[/color]

This topic is to shine a light on sutherland and if people have observations ,facts and anlaysis on this man please post them.

He appears to me a shady figure who comes into focus in Ireland when the establishment want him to bat for some cause of theirs.

[The Earl of Desmond]

Peter Sutherland campaigned vigourously for a Yes vote.

As far as I know this man does nt live in Ireland .
As chairman of BP he presided over the operation of oil plants in Texas where fire and explosions killed many workers.BP were recognised by most commentators to run safety for workers as a low priority .

Sutherland made a speech about a year ago reported on in the Irish newspapers where he was critical of the Irish people who had reservations about immigration into Ireland post Nice.

This man has been uniquely privelaged and had the inside track all through his life .It appears he did nt have to break a sweat.Fair enough until he starts berating the ungrateful peasants who were against this treaty.

Ganly of Libertas was constantly under the spotlight from the Yes side....accusations such as he is a CIA agent ,A US neo Liberal, allied to the US military etc.

This topic is to shine a light on sutherland and if people have observations ,facts and anlaysis on this man please post them.

He appears to me a shady figure who comes into focus in Ireland when the establishment want him to bat for some cause of theirs.

What does that matter? The very fact a person is part of the 'establishment' means they will have a vested interest in advocating the cause they support in the sense that the way they want you to vote is beneficial to them personally and not for the national interest - it might well be in the national interest but by the time you get to be part of the establishment you have long since gone past the point of caring for the national interest. You don't think Suds sat and thought about yes or no based on if it was good for Ireland? He decided on yes because it suits his business interests and ergo in his mind that makes it good for Ireland cos he believes that only successful businesses can bring about prosperity and even better if those businesses are left to do whatever they want to be successful. That's where he is coming from - its hardly a shock.

Ganley is also part of the establishment by virtue of his wealth. Whether he is a CIA agent or whatever his wealth means he was able to set up and fund and run Libertas. Also Ganley has decided on his stance because somewhere along the way it affects his business interests - so if Suds has come to the view that majority voting suits his business interests so vote yes so will Ganley have decided that actually he needs Ireland to keep the veto as he can use his pressure in Ireland to get Ireland to veto any EU military pact (assuming he is a CIA agent etc). So their yes and no stance has nothign to do with the national interest.

We just get taken along for the ride!

[goosebump]

Peter Sutherland campaigned vigourously for a Yes vote.

As far as I know this man does nt live in Ireland .
As chairman of BP he presided over the operation of oil plants in Texas where fire and explosions killed many workers.BP were recognised by most commentators to run safety for workers as a low priority .

Wow.

He has a job and doesn't live in Ireland. He truly is the Spawn of Hitler.

[CookieMonster]

He didn't pour a load of his own money into organisation to try to affect the result in anyway.

Yeah that €6.35k really but question marks over christmas in the Ganley household this year...

[Rocky]

He didn't pour a load of his own money into organisation to try to affect the result in anyway.

Yeah that €6.35k really but question marks over christmas in the Ganley household this year...

You really believe that's all Ganley put into Libertas?