EU Dictators May Ram Through Lisbon Treaty Despite Rejection

[disenchanted]

An interesting take on events in the article below. I'm inclined to agree with the author.

I think we had a close call today.

Well done to everyone, in particular the "no" voters.

If the EU decides to violate its own laws, and press ahead with the Treaty without Ireland, it is nothing less than a dictatorship, and I'm glad we're on the outside, for the time being.

Let's see what threats and tactics they use to try and scare us into submission in the coming months.

"Spearheaded by British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy, the EU and its member states, in their relentless pursuit of a federal superstate, may break its own laws and ram through the Lisbon Treaty despite it being rejected by Irish voters today.

Under EU laws, if one of its member states rejects a treaty, the EU is mandated to scrap the bill. But the European Union's contempt for direct democracy is likely to lead them to ignore the Irish referendum and pursue the implementation of the Lisbon Treaty anyway - underscoring the fact that the EU is nothing more than an illegitimate dictatorship of manufactured consent."

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[Oblivion]

If they do, the EU's popularity is going to fall into a terminal death spiral. It would be exceedingly stupid for the EU to go down this road. And yet, that's exactly where they seem to steering.

[dail usher]

An interesting take on events in the article below. I'm inclined to agree with the author.

I think we had a close call today.

Well done to everyone, in particular the "no" voters.

If the EU decides to violate its own laws, and press ahead with the Treaty without Ireland, it is nothing less than a dictatorship, and I'm glad we're on the outside, for the time being.

Let's see what threats and tactics they use to try and scare us into submission in the coming months.

"Spearheaded by British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy, the EU and its member states, in their relentless pursuit of a federal superstate, may break its own laws and ram through the Lisbon Treaty despite it being rejected by Irish voters today.

Under EU laws, if one of its member states rejects a treaty, the EU is mandated to scrap the bill. But the European Union's contempt for direct democracy is likely to lead them to ignore the Irish referendum and pursue the implementation of the Lisbon Treaty anyway - underscoring the fact that the EU is nothing more than an illegitimate dictatorship of manufactured consent."

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Don't you think we should wait to hear from the other EU countries who have still to decide to ratify or not before you try telling them what to do? Aren't they entitled to the same right to make up their own minds in their own way as was shown in Ireland here (I'm a no voter, but I'm a democrat)

All this little Irelander talk sounds very reminiscent of the worst rhetoric of the eurosceptic Torys and UKIP. So much for Declan Ganley's cl;aim that today's no vote was a positive vote for the EU.

[dub006]

If they do, the EU's popularity is going to fall into a terminal death spiral. It would be exceedingly stupid for the EU to go down this road. And yet, that's exactly where they seem to steering.

The Irish Times editor will probably encourage them with one her zany missives.

[disenchanted]

The issue is, they're happy to break their own laws!

What about the common people across Europe who had no say in this?

The political classes across Europe are crooked as hell, that's the only reason why the treaty is being ratified everywhere else.

We were lucky today.

[merle haggard]

If they do, the EU's popularity is going to fall into a terminal death spiral. It would be exceedingly stupid for the EU to go down this road. And yet, that's exactly where they seem to steering.

let them go down that lunatic road without us . empire is what this is all about and without fail empires end up crashing and burning because the empires leaders go crazy with unnacountable power . This is about the leaders and their world view and not the people and we should be very proud of the stand we took . we need to maintain that stand and not let ourselves down in the face of threats , more lies , bluster and fury . If they wont obey their own laws now what will it be like in future ? We can see the future from their reaction to democracy and its one we most certainly do not need .

Its an undemocratic futre in which our wishes and indeed our rights will count for nothing , only our compliance

in laymans terms fukk them and the horse they rode in on

[dail usher]

The political classes across Europe are crooked as hell, that's the only reason why the treaty is being ratified everywhere else.

So you would urge Ireland to come out of the EU? Yo

[disenchanted]

Look. Politics is rotten these days.

These guys are willing to break even their own laws. They're not working in our interest. They have disregarded the voices of the French and the Dutch, and now they plan to disregard the voices of the Irish.

The Irish people made a stand today, and that should make you proud to be Irish.

It certainly makes me proud.

[merle haggard]

me too , my plans to leave this country in dejected disgust are now on hold indefinitely . seriously , well done people .

[Kite]

A case of Sieg Heil again.
Many of us thought we left this kind of "european politics" behind years ago.
There is no excuse for that muppet Sarkosi, he should have learnt from the mistakes of France in the past.
Any Jew pandering to Hitlers "daughter" should set the alarm bells ringing.
History will thank us for voting NO.