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About LinkBacksSeveral Gov. ministers on RTE have mentioned conscription as a major issue and fears of it being responsible for the NO vote. This never came across to me during the campaign. Did any of you hear this raised?
Several Gov. ministers on RTE have mentioned conscription as a major issue and fears of it being responsible for the NO vote. This never came across to me during the campaign. Did any of you hear this raised?
People may have brought it up at the doorstep with them, but by far the main 'military' reason was military spending and the requirement of EU states to increase their spending, backed up by the fact that France intends to get EU countries to increase military spending to 6% GDP.
But of course the government ignores this...
I think that had a very small effect. Politics.IE could do a service and setup a poll asking NO voters why they voted NO and list 10 possible reasons, eg abortion, neutrality\foreign policy, conscription, loss of commissioner, loss of sovereignty, corporation tax, didnt understand it, rehash of constitution...
May not be technically feasible but a 1,2,3 preference would be good too.
Almost nobody seriously thought this, they're saying it to make the nos sound crazy and say "see there was nothing wrong with the treaty it's just what you THOUGHT of the treaty...and you were wrong...stupid voters", they are also elevating abortion and Corporation Tax as reasons, even though they were the conern of an equally tiny number
Signed, Universal (LGBT...QRSTUVWXYZ)
I heard conscription mentioned. It was also covered in a vox pop by RTE. It was also (reportedly) mentioned to Yes campaigners during a walk around in Tullamore last week - so I think it was a minor point but certainly too many independent mentions of it to be written off as a nothing.
Abortion was mentioned and was included in Coir leaflets
Tax confusion was a very big issue amongst people I spoke to. Libertas and SF managed to confuse enough people into thinking that tax was an issue. And yes I do say "confuse" because they are factually incorrect in their argument that a destination based tax can be introduced by a cohort of companies implementing a CCCTB via enhanced co-operation. That simply cannot happen under existing (pre-Lisbon) rules not can it happen post-Lisbon.
The Yes side failed miserably in simply explaining these types of issues - they spent too much time knocking SF, Libertas etc rather than knocking their arguments.
Fairly pathetic excuse by them. Sore losers
This is a strange one. Either the Gov actually believe their own propaganda that all no voters are"lulus" and insane. Which would just show how out of touch and up their own arse they are.
Or they are deliberately spinning concern about militarisation so that they can go to Brussels, get some superficial changes to it, then come back and declare they have sorted out our "fears of conscription"(which were never real fears) and put it to a revote.
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I never heard ANYONE talk about conscription. In fact FF are blaming WOMEN for voting against the Treaty becasue of conscription.
I just saw Martin on RTE spouting it again but he kinda tripped up his own point
he said "we spend the entire campagn saying i wasn't about abortion, constiption or tax"....so if that message was hammerd home so well (and it was) then we can all agree those were not issues? as they were all cleared up.
Glad we have that settled!
Signed, Universal (LGBT...QRSTUVWXYZ)
Leaflets claiming that were handed out outside schools in Meath to parents, and in other areas. Coir canvassers also said it, one of them to me.Originally Posted by Universal_001
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