'Are we out of our minds?'
Well well, the Old Lady of D'olier Street (or should that be Tara Street?) has definitely gone over the top this time.
This is easily explained. After expending so much effort on their coordination of the YES campaign the internationalists running that rag are terrified that they just might be on the losing side. Hence all that emotional rubbish.
Originally Posted by Vega1447
Why in the name of %%%% do you expect *any* newspaper to be unbiased?
Newspapers *always* take positions on political issues - they would be dull reading else.
Presumably your problem is that Madam doesn't agree with you? Tough.
Well try the Oirish Daily Mail...
Do I expect FAIR and INDEPENDENT media in a DEMOCRATIC country to be BALANCED and NEUTRAL in matters that INFLUENCE the CHOICES OF THE PEOPLE?
(Not least the newspaper of record...)
Is that what you are asking?
I have frequently stated I am an INM shareholder. I bought those shares around the time of Denis O'Brien's purchases on the basis that I believe in free media. Madam is basically prostituting herself to the "Yes" side.
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
[quote=Helium Three]You are not a reliable judge of what is or is not true about Lisbon. Recall your false claim made on the Tom McGurk thread that the Lisbon treaty gives no new competences to the EU.[/quote:l81g9w7c]For the millionth time, that is not true.The ultimate reason to vote NO
If this goes through the treaty is self ammending from thereon.
Well, if you query Goosebump's reliability, I will repeat it. The treaty is not self-amending. The process for amending it is exactly the same as up to now. However, a change from unanimity to Qualified Majority Vote without amending the treaty will be possible by unanimous vote of governments, provided it is not on the subject of security policy, and subject to any national parliament having the right to veto it.
Groan.Why in the name of %%%% do you expect *any* newspaper to be unbiased?
Newspapers *always* take positions on political issues - they would be dull reading else.
Presumably your problem is that Madam doesn't agree with you? Tough.
Well try the Oirish Daily Mail...
because thats the position they sold themselves on for years . their vaunted trust is meant to assure them freedom to submit unbiased reportage. in short reporting the truth instead of the spin. thats what they maintain is what seperated them from the SINDO and the MAIL.
IV NO problem with madam , but that mask has not only slipped , its shattered on the floor. ive always viewed it as an establisment rag, now its plain for all to see. no truth seeking here, just propaganda.
There's nothing wrong with Op/Ed pieces pro-EU/Lisbon so long as IT reports the facts honestly.
The OP was objecting to an [color=#FF0000]editorial[/color].
IMO Madam is entitled to state Her views so long as She allows Her reporters to do their jobs without interference.
Do you have any example of bias in the IT's [color=#FF0000]journalism[/color]?
Mr Gormley described calls for the resignation of his cabinet colleague as "absolute nonsense". He said Mr Lenihan was doing "a very good job under exceptionally difficult circumstances".
[quote=Earnest]Well, if you query Goosebump's reliability, I will repeat it. The treaty is not self-amending. The process for amending it is exactly the same as up to now. However, a change from unanimity to Qualified Majority Vote without amending the treaty will be possible by unanimous vote of governments, provided it is not on the subject of security policy, and subject to any national parliament having the right to veto it.[/quote:3nerawd3]You are not a reliable judge of what is or is not true about Lisbon. Recall your false claim made on the Tom McGurk thread that the Lisbon treaty gives no new competences to the EU.For the millionth time, that is not true.The ultimate reason to vote NO
If this goes through the treaty is self ammending from thereon.
That is an accurate answer.
'To attempt to rerun a referendum as a means of reversing the democratic decision taken by the people would be rightly regarded as an affront'. Dick Roche TD 21.12.01
[quote=Helium Three][quote=Earnest]Well, if you query Goosebump's reliability, I will repeat it. The treaty is not self-amending. The process for amending it is exactly the same as up to now. However, a change from unanimity to Qualified Majority Vote without amending the treaty will be possible by unanimous vote of governments, provided it is not on the subject of security policy, and subject to any national parliament having the right to veto it.[/quote:3hsyk0zi]You are not a reliable judge of what is or is not true about Lisbon. Recall your false claim made on the Tom McGurk thread that the Lisbon treaty gives no new competences to the EU.For the millionth time, that is not true.The ultimate reason to vote NO
If this goes through the treaty is self ammending from thereon.
That is an accurate answer.[/quote:3hsyk0zi]
So you admit the treaty is self-amending? Pleas tell that to Ganley and Sinn Fein who are pushing the myth that it is.
[color=#FF0000](Guys, when I type in capitals it isn't shouting. I have technical problems which makes using italics difficult. Please don't take offence if you see capitals used!) [/color]
[quote=NotDevsSon][quote=Helium Three]That is an accurate answer.[/quote:3qc97iui]Well, if you query Goosebump's reliability, I will repeat it. The treaty is not self-amending. The process for amending it is exactly the same as up to now. However, a change from unanimity to Qualified Majority Vote without amending the treaty will be possible by unanimous vote of governments, provided it is not on the subject of security policy, and subject to any national parliament having the right to veto it.You are not a reliable judge of what is or is not true about Lisbon. Recall your false claim made on the Tom McGurk thread that the Lisbon treaty gives no new competences to the EU.For the millionth time, that is not true.The ultimate reason to vote NO
If this goes through the treaty is self ammending from thereon.
So you admit the treaty is self-amending? Pleas tell that to Ganley and Sinn Fein who are pushing the myth that it is.[/quote:3qc97iui]
??????? Double afirmative NDS.
Its only a chat, we ain't the world council.
In 2000 the Women's Institute in Britain gave Tony Blair the slow hand clap to demonstrate their contempt.
[COLOR="Red"]It was dignified, restrained and effective.[/COLOR]Doesn't Bertie deserve the same scorn. No shouting, no abuse, no agression just a relentless slow clap whenever he speaks in public would be enough to end that man's presidential fantasy.
-3.75,-3.23
Getting back to the topic of the Irish Times editorial.
It was unbelievable.
How dare we vote against the treaty.
I get the feeling that Madam will require all of her existing customers to prove that they voted for the treaty or she will refuse to let them buy the paper in the future.
If we vote no then the Irish Times will have a collective hissy fit and will not be published for a week
The absolute cheek of some people not agreeing to believe their betters and insisting on voting No
Kindly Uncle Garret has now written the same article at least seven times , getting more hysterical each time.
We will be cut adrift from Europe and foreign holidays will be out of the question if we reject this treaty with the Irish passport being spat on and burned right across Europe.
(To be fair to the editor she is a former PD TD with all the inherent baggage that entails.
The paper she now edits has disgraced itself in this referendum. The tone of the coverage and the absolutely biased nature of it does no credit to a paper that had some degree of impartiality in the past. If she can go off the deep end to the extent she did at the weekend what can we expect by Wednesday)
[quote=jpc][quote=NotDevsSon][quote=Helium Three]That is an accurate answer.[/quote:ffxrfoe7]Well, if you query Goosebump's reliability, I will repeat it. The treaty is not self-amending. The process for amending it is exactly the same as up to now. However, a change from unanimity to Qualified Majority Vote without amending the treaty will be possible by unanimous vote of governments, provided it is not on the subject of security policy, and subject to any national parliament having the right to veto it.You are not a reliable judge of what is or is not true about Lisbon. Recall your false claim made on the Tom McGurk thread that the Lisbon treaty gives no new competences to the EU.For the millionth time, that is not true.The ultimate reason to vote NO
If this goes through the treaty is self ammending from thereon.
So you admit the treaty is self-amending? Pleas tell that to Ganley and Sinn Fein who are pushing the myth that it is.[/quote:ffxrfoe7]
??????? Double afirmative NDS.[/quote:ffxrfoe7]
It's self amending, at noon the day after passing it will link up with Skynet and the machines will turn on us all (and the puppies of course)
Signed, Universal (LGBT...QRSTUVWXYZ)
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