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    "Vote No to Giscard's Lisbon swindle" Sindo Article

    Vote No to Giscard's Lisbon swindle
    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/colum ... 93761.html
    By Shane Ross
    Sunday June 01 2008

    "WOULD you like to join the Lisbon "loo-las?" Or even the growing ranks of the brain dead?
    Sign up while you can; you will join the French loo-las and the Dutch brain dead. Both nations rejected the European constitution -- the Lisbon Treaty under another name.
    All the insiders in Ireland are backing Lisbon. Their message is poisonously patronising. Those opposing it were dismissed as "loo-las" by Bertie Ahern and branded as brainless by the nation's sycophants-in-situ, the big employers group, Ibec. Join the loo-las. Wear the insults as a badge of honour...."


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    Re: "Vote No to Giscard's Lisbon swindle" Sindo Article

    I was wondering what Shane Ross's latest bandwagon would be now that the EBS thing has run out of steam.

    No doubt we can read all about how he championed the cause of irish freedom , almost single handedly, in his flyers for the next seanad elections.
    That article is a bit light on specifcs though isn't it? It's all predictions of doom and gloom if we vote yes but without the specific of why! ( or did I miss something??)

    The closest he gets is this
    "The author was deeply worried by Lisbon. He gave good reasons, but the most startling reminder on the tax front resurfaced. "
    Maybe the good senator would share with us said good reasons??
    He then talks about plots and blackmail or bribery to undermine our tax regime.

    There is a lot of scaremongering there but no real substance behinid his portents of doom???
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    Re: "Vote No to Giscard's Lisbon swindle" Sindo Article

    Well, it seems his main message in this piece is that the message of "tidying up the EU" is false!
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    Re: "Vote No to Giscard's Lisbon swindle" Sindo Article

    Quote Originally Posted by silvamuppet
    That article is a bit light on specifcs though isn't it? It's all predictions of doom and gloom if we vote yes but without the specific of why! ( or did I miss something??)
    Welcome to how it feels to be a no voter.

    Them: Vote yes, it's good fo Ireland!
    Me: Ok, why?
    Them: Here is a leaflet.
    Me: It's doesn't say why it's good for ireland (other than that voting no will leave us all jobless and homeless).
    Them: WHY DO YOU HATE EUROPE?!?!!!
    Me: *sigh*
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    Re: "Vote No to Giscard's Lisbon swindle" Sindo Article

    There really is no getting around this.

    "The Constitution is the capstone of a European Federal State"
    - Guy Verhofstadt, Belgian Prime Minister, Financial Times, 21 June 2004

    Oh, and in the event of failure, this.

    "We decide on something. We leave it lying around and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most poeple don't know what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back."
    - Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker, The Economist, 24 September 2004
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    Is there any getting around Mary Wallace, Junior Minister, who is quoted in the Sunday Times telling a man that if we vote No, we will be told to vote again. Groundhog Day?
    'To attempt to rerun a referendum as a means of reversing the democratic decision taken by the people would be rightly regarded as an affront'. Dick Roche TD 21.12.01

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    Re: "Vote No to Giscard's Lisbon swindle" Sindo Article

    At least Ross is reaching out to the younger voters:
    [color=#008000]“Lisbon is dynamite […] And Ireland will lose out. Like how? Like, we will lose a commissioner.” [/color]

    Loike, thats really bad.
    [color=#008000]From what INTELLIGENCE has gathered, it would be 9/11 times 100.[/color][color=#FF0000] 9/11 times a hundred? Jesus, that's... [/color][color=#008000] Yes, 91,100.[/color]

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    Re: "Vote No to Giscard's Lisbon swindle" Sindo Article

    Edit.

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    Re: "Vote No to Giscard's Lisbon swindle" Sindo Article

    I am eligible to vote for Ross, but have never done so, as I don't think the universities should have their own private senators.

    However, I've been pretty impressed with Ross's efforts to fight the M50 charges (where are pseudo-leftists like Sinn Fein on this issue, by the way?).

    Ross doesn't need my vote, he has the safest seat in the universities, but now that I've read his Vote NO article he may very well get it next time.

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    Re: "Vote No to Giscard's Lisbon swindle" Sindo Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Helium Three
    Is there any getting around Mary Wallace, Junior Minister, who is quoted in the Sunday Times telling a man that if we vote No, we will be told to vote again. Groundhog Day?
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