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    Reuters:"no obvious benefits to Irish people" McCreevey

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/reutersEd ... 3820080529

    Reuters today have an Article in which Charlie McCreevey says that the Lisbon Treaty will be a hard sell to the Irish because it bears "no obvious benefits to Irish people"

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    Re: McCreevy: "no obvious benefits to Irish people"

    I wonder does he really want a yes vote?

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    Re: McCreevy: "no obvious benefits to Irish people"

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    I wonder does he really want a yes vote?
    He makes it questionable, he also commends the no campaign in the article

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    Re: McCreevy: "no obvious benefits to Irish people"

    Quote Originally Posted by thebarfly1
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUKORM93463820080529

    Reuters today have an Article in which Charlie McCreevey says that the Lisbon Treaty will be a hard sell to the Irish because it bears "no obvious benefits to Irish people"
    And here was me thinking that it was vital for Ireland to have a permanent commissioner given that Commissioners represent national interests.

    This sort of impartial commentary on the part of an EU Commissioner is a total disgrace. What will he do next? Act in the interests of EU? Defend the Treaties? Uphold EU Law?

    Resign, sir, resign!
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    Re: McCreevy: "no obvious benefits to Irish people"

    Seems he's an exception to the widespread sellout in Fianna Fail. The rest of his party have mentally disengaged, with matters such and National Sovereignty and lack of real benefits to the Irish people being totally overlooked.
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    Re: McCreevy: "no obvious benefits to Irish people"

    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump
    Quote Originally Posted by thebarfly1
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUKORM93463820080529

    Reuters today have an Article in which Charlie McCreevey says that the Lisbon Treaty will be a hard sell to the Irish because it bears "no obvious benefits to Irish people"
    And here was me thinking that it was vital for Ireland to have a permanent commissioner given that Commissioners represent national interests.

    This sort of impartial commentary on the part of an EU Commissioner is a total disgrace. What will he do next? Act in the interests of EU? Defend the Treaties? Uphold EU Law?

    Resign, sir, resign!
    We don't agree often, but your on the money here. The guy is a joke and the pity is that when Bertie was dumping him he could not have despatched him a bit further away. As for the call on him to resign, not a hope, he enjoys the high life too much.
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    Re: McCreevy: "no obvious benefits to Irish people"

    Just to point out that "no obvious benefits" are the reporter's words, not McCreevy's:

    EU Internal Market Commissioner Charlie McCreevy said in previous accords put before Irish voters there had been "some major telling point to say that it is in your particular interest to vote yes", such as over joining the euro currency.

    "This particular treaty is a series of tidying up exercises to make for a more efficient running of the operation," he told reporters in Dublin.

    "That per se will be a more difficult sell for the yes side in that there is not a big point to build a campaign around," he said ahead of a panel debate on Ireland and the EU.
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    McCreevy said officials in Brussels were closely watching developments, adding it was in Ireland's best interests to back the treaty but was up to voters to decide.

    "The no side is getting ample time (in public debate). They are arguing their case quite well," he said. "It is up to the yes side to argue their case better."
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    Re: McCreevy: "no obvious benefits to Irish people"

    It seems someone in FF has copped on
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    Re: McCreevy: "no obvious benefits to Irish people"

    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher
    We don't agree often, but your on the money here. The guy is a joke and the pity is that when Bertie was dumping him he could not have despatched him a bit further away. As for the call on him to resign, not a hope, he enjoys the high life too much.
    Can you point out what part of the article you disagree with? Or do you think our EU Commissioner should be silent during the Lisbon campaign??? Would you prefer he was mute, like the President, or a FF hack?
    What is the "major telling point" (obvious benefit) in the Lisbon Treaty for the Irish people?
    Have the 'No' side not been given ample time in the public debate?
    Are they arguing their case well?
    Is it not up to the Yes side to argue their better???

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    Re: McCreevy: "no obvious benefits to Irish people"

    Quote Originally Posted by Electro
    Seems he's an exception to the widespread sellout in Fianna Fail. The rest of his party have mentally disengaged, with matters such and National Sovereignty and lack of real benefits to the Irish people being totally overlooked.

    sure is he even FF propper? i remember a few radio interviews last year on the formation of the PDs and apparently he was one of the major players but didnt jump ship. indeed his relationship with harney and co was supposed to be one of the main reasons FF went into power with them back in the 90s as he pushed heavily for it.

    effectively charlies a crypto PD.

    still whats he got to lose? its not like the comission can sack him

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