The Sunday Times - Libertas' Pravda ?

[Gladiator]

For the past 3 weeks running, the Sunday Times opinion pages have given space (1,000+ words each week) to three people from "Open Europe", an organisation advocating a NO to Lisbon vote. Also, in today's paper they give Declan Ganley, chair of Libertas, a soft profile. Publicity, publicity, publicity...

I am just getting a little sick of the paranoia on the NO side that various media organs are biased against them. As it boasts in it's own pages, The Sunday Times is "the largest selling quality broadsheet" in Ireland. Surely, someone on the NO side must have noticed this support from the right-wing economics team of Kiberd/ FitzGibbon ?

Stop being a) paranoid and b) having the glass half empty mentality on media coverage.

[PaintingMedium]

Mod, can we ban the word Libertas please?

Right, one question, how many articles in the last three weeks have been about Yes campaigners? It would be a miracle if it was less then Libertas and their amazing 3!

What would Jesus do?

[CookieMonster]

What would Jesus do?

He'd vote no.

[Helium Three]

and he would get us back our fishes.

[Twin Towers]

For the past 3 weeks running, the Sunday Times opinion pages have given space (1,000+ words each week) to three people from "Open Europe", an organisation advocating a NO to Lisbon vote. Also, in today's paper they give Declan Ganley, chair of Libertas, a soft profile. Publicity, publicity, publicity...

Of course the entire political establishment pushing for a Yes on behalf of their Euro handlers have been scarcely mentioned by the media for months now.

spooky innit?

[Bobb]

Who asked for this treaty?
Who asked for an ever wider ever deeper EU
At the time of Nice we were told we'd have a trickle of immigration.
This time we're told not to bother reading the treaty just vote for it.
That it's all legalese and that only an idiot would read it,
It's grotesque that our taoiseach and McCreevy can say such things.
We may have a toothless consumer agency but I couldn't imagine them
ever advising people to sign a contract without reading it.
Biffo so deserves a kick up the ass for this and a no vote is the ideal way to do it

[Limerick Lad]

The "No" side used many of the same arguments during the the Nice Referendum they're using now against Lisbon, yet all they're dire predictions in relation to taxation, neutrality and abortion didn't happen.
They've cried wolf once too often to be believed this time

[Trampas]

and he would get us back our fishes.

[Trampas]

The "No" side used many of the same arguments during the the Nice Referendum they're using now against Lisbon, yet all they're dire predictions in relation to taxation, neutrality and abortion didn't happen.
They've cried wolf once too often to be believed this time

In fact the most prominent "No to Nice" predictions concerned large scale immigration from Eastern Europe. Of course these predictions were dismissed as xenophobia...... Nothing wolf about it - at it turns out.

[PaintingMedium]

The "No" side used many of the same arguments during the the Nice Referendum they're using now against Lisbon, yet all they're dire predictions in relation to taxation, neutrality and abortion didn't happen.
They've cried wolf once too often to be believed this time

I do not know if that is very accurate considering the polls do not reflect this thought!