Garrett's article in Irish Times (24-05-08)

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However, Caroline Simons of Libertas believed that the question of the veto over the WTO negotiations had “yet to addressed clearly” and said that Ireland’s beef and sheep sectors might “go the same way as the sugar industry”.

“If you read the Treaty you will clearly see specifically that internal rules on services will be dealt with by Qualified Majority Voting”, she said.


Now Garrett, the precocious 80 year old, claims that the treaty protects all our national interests. He gets into a right hussy fit over it. All hot under his collar. Can we trust someone who missed this obvious point. I don't think so.

Garrett, time to take the not inconsiderable pensions and play pitch and putt . . .

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Garrett is also a Bilderberg - now that is some conspiracy!!

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Garret FitzGerald (1975, 1977), former Taoiseach, attended as Minister for Foreign Affairs

[Catalpa]

Garret harks back to a (mythical) Golden Age when this State was part of a nine member club of equals and he was the Minister of Foreign Affairs and we had a veto on everything that came up for discussion.

Gone Garret gone...

Now we are just one state out of 27 with less than 1% of the EUs population.

Go figure how much real influence we have left...

By rejecting this Treaty we will get some clout as we can pretty well have what we ask for in opt out clauses to get it through. The bigger States will offer us generous concessions to get us to agree.

[wombat]

Now we are just one state out of 27 with less than 1% of the EUs population.

..... The bigger States will offer us generous concessions to get us to agree.

How did you reach that conclusion?

[turdsl]

I am deeply disturbed by Garrets article in yesterdays IrishTimes where he says that we would be treated as the pariahs of the EU, this to me defeats his own argument, if we were so well appreciated within Europe in the past as we were made to believe and then to have a democratic
decision if the result was no to be treated as a pariah really tells us somthing very frightening about Europe. Let me make one thing clear i regard Garret with great respect who surely is a committed european

[merle haggard]

I am deeply disturbed by Garrets article in yesterdays IrishTimes where he says that we would be treated as the pariahs of the EU, this to me defeats his own argument, if we were so well appreciated within Europe in the past as we were made to believe and then to have a democratic
decision if the result was no to be treated as a pariah really tells us somthing very frightening about Europe. Let me make one thing clear i regard Garret with great respect who surely is a committed european

garrett is simply indulging in the usual button pressing of fear and shame amongst the Irish people for having an opinion in their own country , buttons his type now well how to press . He'll be calling a no vote a declaration of war next .
The fact is most people dont understand this document . Its been deliberately written as to be unintelligible by ordinary people . Its then left up to the governemnts and politicians to scare and shame people into voting for something they dont understand therefore cant argue against .
However its a very simple matter that in any contract if you dont understand it or the fine print then you dont sign it . Feck Garrett , a boring , limp wristed woolly dunderhead wwhos only purpose in life is having the Irish people conform to someone elses agenda .

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I would tend to support the last submission. Garrett is one pompous man. I recall some years ago his account of canon law on marriage and how (as a teenager no less) he could see its flaws. I've taught at third level and the students who think they know more than famous authors, not to mention lecturers, are often quite poor. Is Garrett such a type? And how successful was he as Taoiseach? Better not go there.

More to the point, Simons is certainly more clued in than Garrett. He's in hock to the grandees of Europe.

[Trampas]

I would tend to support the last submission. Garrett is one pompous man. I recall some years ago his account of canon law on marriage and how (as a teenager no less) he could see its flaws. I've taught at third level and the students who think they know more than famous authors, not to mention lecturers, are often quite poor. Is Garrett such a type? And how successful was he as Taoiseach? Better not go there.

More to the point, Simons is certainly more clued in than Garrett. He's in hock to the grandees of Europe.

I don't know.....but he was a very successful YES campaigner during Nice 2. The NO side will underestimate him at our peril.

[turdsl]

I said it at the begining and say it agin now that if the yes side win it will be Garret that will win
it, he may not be the best thoiseach we ever had but he stil has the best brain and the most educated about europe that there is. if the preasure is on you will see him out with Cowen.