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By 14 votes to 5 with 8 abstentions as both SIPTU and Mandate have yet to declare a position.
Shame!
These people are ...well I just don't know what their game is here TBH?
Lisbon is a bad deal for Irish workers - it will allow for more cheap labour to work here and undercut Irish workers + TCOFR will be used to facilitate employers easier access to a bottomless pit of cheap Labour in the 2nd and 3rd World countries that will be given free entry and resident rights within the EU as Europe's overall population cohorts age out.
TCOFR is wide open on whether these rights just apply to EU Citizens or anyone from anywhere who finds themselves within it's borders.
As far as I can see very little in that Charter indicates specfic Citizens Rights as opposed to anyone else from around the World.
How any Irish Trade Unionist could back this Capitalist Trojan Horse is beyond me!
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We are already subject to this. If a foreign company wants to send workers here to do not have to pay them more than the minimum wage, despite what the reccommended pay in that field may be. I think this came to light in a case in sweden recentlyOriginally Posted by Catalpa
Shame!
These people are ...well I just don't know what their game is here TBH?
Lisbon is a bad deal for Irish workers - it will allow for more cheap labour to work here and undercut Irish workers + TCOFR will be used to facilitate employers easier access to a bottomless pit of cheap Labour in the 2nd and 3rd World countries that will be given free entry and resident rights within the EU as Europe's overall population cohorts age out.
TCOFR is wide open on whether these rights just apply to EU Citizens or anyone from anywhere who finds themselves within it's borders.
As far as I can see very little in that Charter indicates specfic Citizens Rights as opposed to anyone else from around the World.
How any Irish Trade Unionist could back this Capitalist Trojan Horse is beyond me!
cant believe they have voted to support it,
would have been interesting if it was 14-13 all the same,
Inishowen Rocks!
Can this be merged with the other thread?
'It would actually give me the greatest of pleasure watching non-compliant taxpayers going to jail. That's the kind of person I am.' Bertie Ahern, 1993.
Good decision.
14 people deciding for 600,000 people. Grossly elitist and undemocratic. And unrepresentative. Noone is fooled.
Representative democracy eh? Who'd have it? Scrap the Oireachtas now.
It's good to say that the trade union movement hasn't fallen for the lies peddled about the Treaty of Lisbon.
They know that Corporation Tax won't be affected and that their members' jobs won't be at risk from any such move.
What do you reckon FT? Do you think that ICTU is right to think this?
'It would actually give me the greatest of pleasure watching non-compliant taxpayers going to jail. That's the kind of person I am.' Bertie Ahern, 1993.
So let's get this straight.Representative democracy eh? Who'd have it? Scrap the Oireachtas now.
It's good to say that the trade union movement hasn't fallen for the lies peddled about the Treaty of Lisbon.
They know that Corporation Tax won't be affected and that their members' jobs won't be at risk from any such move.
What do you reckon FT? Do you think that ICTU is right to think this?
Out of 600,000 trade unionists, 14 are representative of their members on the Lisbon treaty in terms of voting intentions?
Hogwash.
ICTU couldn't save the Nice Treaty in 2001 and can't save Lisbon in 2008.
Let the constituent unions in ICTU ballot their members before taking a stance. I notice that the CPSU, previously described as backing the Treaty, hasn't ballotted its members on what stance to take. Again it symbolises the elitism of the yes campaign.
The elites are pushing us to vote yes like in France and Holland and the answer will be the same as those countries.
Let's get this straight: 166 TDs represent a population of 4.3 million. That's one for roughly every 25,000 people.
ICTU has 27 members on the body that voted representing 600,000 members. That's one for roughly every 22,000 members.
Which body is more representative?
Let's get another thing straight: you're avoiding the topic of Corporation Tax like the plague.
Is there any particular reason for that? :mrgreen:
'It would actually give me the greatest of pleasure watching non-compliant taxpayers going to jail. That's the kind of person I am.' Bertie Ahern, 1993.
