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You can watch today's Forum on Europe here.
ARuairi Quinn and Joe Higgins debating The Lisbon Treaty - What it means for Social Europe.
You can watch today's Forum on Europe here.
ARuairi Quinn and Joe Higgins debating The Lisbon Treaty - What it means for Social Europe.
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de rossa just called voting not to respect the referendum "a small thing"
Sovereignty is Democracy
...cough...glass houses, MacCoise.Originally Posted by MacCoise
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.
Higgens made a good case that Lisbon will not solve all the EU's problems or complete the European project. I agree with him. But he didn't prove the case to reject Lisbon - which is a move in the right direction.
Best course is to pass Lisbon and then move on to the next treaty.
"Who will bailout the IMF after FF is finished with them?"
I read that as today's forum on live line...
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
im biased obviously but I thought ruairí spoke extremely well. Interesting to see Libertas's new lady, nice to see a new face other than Naoise, Declan, David, John or Ulick.
Who was she?
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
No. He said (correctly) that it was not the parliament's business to vote to respect or reject any vote in a country. The motion was just a Sinn Fein gimmick. He told Mad McKenna, who was doing her usual hyperventolating act that she and SF got worked up over small things, which they do. SF are p*ssed off with de Rossa because he would not support their gimmick motion. It is no more the parliament's business to vote to 'respect' our referendum result than it is the parliament's business to vote to respect our general election result, our local election results or anything else. It is none of the parliament's business. Its is our business. (Maybe if SF's MEPS turned up more often to parliament they might find something more useful to do than post gimmick motions.)
[color=#FF0000](Guys, when I type in capitals it isn't shouting. I have technical problems which makes using italics difficult. Please don't take offence if you see capitals used!) [/color]
They barracked and barracked for him to answer a question (not normal at the forum). When he did they all tried to shout him down...democracy Sinn Fein and Mc Kenna style. Easy knowing SF are recent arrivals to normal democratic politicsNo. He said (correctly) that it was not the parliament's business to vote to respect or reject any vote in a country. The motion was just a Sinn Fein gimmick. He told Mad McKenna, who was doing her usual hyperventolating act that she and SF got worked up over small things, which they do. SF are p*ssed off with de Rossa because he would not support their gimmick motion. It is no more the parliament's business to vote to 'respect' our referendum result than it is the parliament's business to vote to respect our general election result, our local election results or anything else. It is none of the parliament's business. Its is our business. (Maybe if SF's MEPS turned up more often to parliament they might find something more useful to do than post gimmick motions.)
