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Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
Now, Q & A...
"The whole thing reminds me of... the child who saw the emperor had no clothes..."
"You have not addressed the points sir and if I had to vote this minute It'd be a no."
Some farmer is now speaking and I cannot understand a word he says, he is not 2 foot from me and I cannot understand, although the chairman is yelling at him to "shut up."
Chairman is outraged to have his right to be hear questioned by the large farmer above...?
SinnFein woman... american accent speaking.. Shannon Brooke Murphy! That's the one!
"EU can prohibit state funding."
"Can't the panel agree that Irelands place is secure in the event of a No vote?"
"It's a bad deal, but a better deal is possible"
A Northern citizen "I'm denied a vote!"
"I have a single question for Mr. Neachtain, and that is '"Article 53 reads 'This Treaty is concluded for an unlimited period.' Is that to say, there will be no further referendum on Europe?" Me fein.
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
Declan Ganley responds
"It breaks my heart to see politicians who I have trusted, put us last. It is a betrayal."
"If you do nothing else, please do one thing, read the treaty."
"I am, for the 11th time, asking the government to send a copy to every house in Ireland."
"You are not even being sent a copy of the contract!"
"Cap has been very imperfect. I come from farming stock. I know what it means to us. Farming familys need more income. Article 188.. we will have no veto. I did call it a WMD before the reforms. Which helped."
"If we vote no, everything will be fine."
"Now we're hearing it will start a new holocuast."
"This is patronising in the extreme."
"Sean voted against disclosing the report!"
"Sean, I call upon you, here this evening, to call upon the Parliament to expose the expense accounts!"
"One final thing, let's not be anti-Europe."
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
Good on ya."I have a single question for Mr. Neachtain, and that is '"Article 53 reads 'This Treaty is concluded for an unlimited period.' Is that to say, there will be no further referendum on Europe?" Me fein.
Sean replies:
"We all have concerns on mobile investment... one of the reasons we have been succesful is our membership of the EU."
"Comp. has opened many avenues of business."
"On that basis we do not have to fear comp."
I was involved for many years... in attracting FDI into these regions."
"To say that this treaty has nothing to do with CT, it won't have. It will continue."
" We singed up to that {EU Law has precedence over Irish Law} in 1972! We singed up to that!"
"No United States of Europe!"
"I respect my nation. My nation come first."
"There is a way back, we can, under this treaty, opt out."
"There are countrys who want in, the Balkans for example."
"We are trying to advise, from our experience..."
"Ms. Murphy asked "what if there's a better deal, well, what if there's a worse deal?"
"I'm an MP since 2002."
"When a vote comes about, you have to work on other groups and countrys to have it your way."
"27 member states have agreed, why should we turn it down?"
"The possibility of a worse deal is possible!"
"We have now successfully built up this project."
"Vote yes!"
"BTW Declan, I am discussing the treaty."
Note he did not answer my question.
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
There is now a guy talking about the Rockefeller's setting up the UN.
A One-Worldist! Great!
Holding out a fifty euro note
"What way is the bridge going? To America..."
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
"We're very anxious to invest here. You are introducing risks here. Economics changes. Don't give up the ability to move with them. My point is there are risks not being addressed." An American business man.
"Why would you vote for a treaty proposed by a failed political?" Mention derossa, bruton, estainge,
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
"The treaty devotes 6 words to climate change."
"I'm just wondering, are there any safeguards to protect the Irish people?"
"You [Sean] mentioned the Treaty has negative aspects. I'd like to know why you overlooked them."
"The Irish fishing industry and farming industry has been sold out, lock, stock, and two smoking barrels." A fisherman named Stephen.
"I have trusted the EU and Government on every treaty, but this time I looked closer, and found that this is an exercise in deceit... a no vote is a cure. My q to you is this 'why should I trust you? Why can't you vote no, and be part of the soloution?"
"Two popes have told us we cann't vote for something that leaves God out of the question." An elderly lady.
Declan Ganley again
"U. McEvaddy said "Let's send them 20 pages, lets make them work on that.""
"There are 3 members of the cabinet that voted no."
"I would ask you to read the treaty yourself. You won't need to be advised."
Ibec advocated a yes vote very early on. And I don't believe they read the treaty."
"Ibec, funded by state owned companies. O'Leary would have nothing to do with them."
"I don't want to hear about the 26 countries who have been given a voice on this, because they haven't."
"God bless those who wrote our constitution and the Crotty judgment."
"Let's cut a new deal."
"We need to have the courage to stand up to this."
"Don't give away your democracy... say no, send a message to Brussels. A no to Lisbon is a yes to something better."
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
Sean says:
"Will there be future referenda? Yes, there will be. Under Irish law that must be."
"He [Declan] is taking the treaty out of context."
"You have to play the game."
"One will not get, what everyone wants."
"When we talk about this, we can talk about the rule book. We have to look at how the project came to present day."
"Everyone on the no side agress that Europe is the best protect in all time."
"We cam from war to peace."
"Of course, some of these rules could be amended to suit us better."
"iT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE mANDELSON WILL BE ABLE TO WORK OUT A DEAL."
"The only policy in Europe which ran in Europe since 2002 till 2013 was cap."
"Without the EU we would have 50% less farmers." (I paraphrased.)
"We can have an audience, a voice to say what we believe in Europe and we believe it."
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
