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    Nuclear agenda?

    http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 165:EN:PDF

    after reading that, I started to wonder. What is the European Atomic Community? How does this effect Ireland?

    After running through some web pages I have conclueded that this means either.

    A)-We'll have to start investing in nuclear energy.

    or

    B)-We'll be lobied to invest in nuclear energy.

    As long as we dont have to build nuclear power plants, I'm fine. I have no problem with giving money to nuclear research.

    Any insite?
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    Re: Nuclear agenda?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Collective.
    http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2007:306:0165:0165:EN:PDF

    after reading that, I started to wonder. What is the European Atomic Community? How does this effect Ireland?

    After running through some web pages I have conclueded that this means either.

    A)-We'll have to start investing in nuclear energy.

    or

    B)-We'll be lobied to invest in nuclear energy.

    As long as we dont have to build nuclear power plants, I'm fine. I have no problem with giving money to nuclear research.

    Any insite?
    There was quite a discussion about this, as far as I recall...the main point was that national energy policies are up to the national governments (it's not a 'competence' of the EU), so there's no question of having a nuclear agenda dictated to us.

    After all, if the EU were able to dictate Ireland's energy policy by virtue of Lisbon, it would also be able to dictate everyone else's energy policies. Which EU country would sign up for that, would you say?
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    So basically we'll have a group a part of the EU, trying to convince Ireland to either build nuclear power plants or fund nuclear research? They should get a website. If its the latter I dont mind.
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    Any clue in what Dermot Ahern said yesterday?

    "The bottom line is this: The EU empowers us. The treaty empowers us further."

    'To attempt to rerun a referendum as a means of reversing the democratic decision taken by the people would be rightly regarded as an affront'. Dick Roche TD 21.12.01

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Collective.
    So basically we'll have a group a part of the EU, trying to convince Ireland to either build nuclear power plants or fund nuclear research? They should get a website. If its the latter I dont mind.
    Well, Euratom have been in existence since 1957, so they're clearly not very persuasive. Lisbon has no practical effect on them, as far as I can see - it seems just to subsume them into the main structures of the EU, but doesn't change their remit or their funding. More about them here.
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    I picked out these three bits I liked:

    to promote research and ensure the dissemination of technical information

    The Commission calls upon Member States, persons or undertakings to communicate to it their programmes relating to nuclear research. The Commission publishes at regular intervals a list of those sectors of nuclear research which it considers to be insufficiently explored, and has established a Joint Nuclear Research Centre.


    to establish uniform safety standards to protect the health of workers and of the general public and ensure that they are applied

    Each Member State lays down the appropriate provisions, whether by legislation, regulation or administrative action, to ensure compliance with the basic standards which have been established by the Treaty, including the necessary measures with regard to teaching, education and vocational training. Legislation has also been adopted on medical applications, research, the maximum permissible levels of radioactive contamination in food and the health protection measures to be taken in the event of a radiological emergency. Each Member State is required to provide the Commission with the general data relating to any plan for the disposal of radioactive waste. At the same time, the assent of the Commission is required where these plans are liable to affect the territories of other Member States.

    to make certain that civil nuclear materials are not diverted to other (particularly military) purposes

    The Euratom Treaty introduces an extremely comprehensive and strict system of safeguards to ensure that civil nuclear materials are not diverted from the civil use declared by the Member States. The EU has exclusive powers in this domain, which it exercises through of a team of 300 inspectors who enforce the Euratom safeguards throughout the EU.
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