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  1. #501
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    A definitive NO! Im not for being "European" over "Irish" anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by newswire
    Will be voting no - reasons lack of accountability, lack of democracy, contempt shown for the people of Europe, the people of Ireland (in the recent EP vote).

    My vote will not be influenced in any national interest - i am fully in favour of the EU and greater cohesion etc etc....and my vote will certainly not be influenced by any hatred / mistrust of the current government....

    Although i do wonder how FG and Lab believe our Taoiseach shouldnt be trusted to lead the country but can easily sign us up to an international treaty...come on lads....you're very a la carte in your reasoning!!
    This Treaty goes some why to addressing the lack of accountability and lack of democracy in the EU. It gives greater power to the National Parliaments and more importantly to the European Parliament. Now if you have problems with the current situation, why do you want to retain the current situation and not improve it?

    Also the idea that FG and Labour should oppose a Treaty just because Bertie signed it is nonsense. A Treaty should be supported/opposed on its content and nothing else.
    The powers for national parliaments in this treaty are purely advisory snd therefore toothless and worthless. And even this advice is not binding and to even trigger it would require many national parliaments to do with with respect to a proposed EU law. So that is a lame argument. It's 1800 all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newswire
    Will be voting no - reasons lack of accountability, lack of democracy, contempt shown for the people of Europe, the people of Ireland (in the recent EP vote).

    My vote will not be influenced in any national interest - i am fully in favour of the EU and greater cohesion etc etc....and my vote will certainly not be influenced by any hatred / mistrust of the current government....

    Although i do wonder how FG and Lab believe our Taoiseach shouldnt be trusted to lead the country but can easily sign us up to an international treaty...come on lads....you're very a la carte in your reasoning!!
    I'll go with that, however I am slightly influenced by the arrogance of FF spending my money telling me how to vote. Also, the decision not to go ahead with free Dublin City broadband because it would be not in keeping with EU has made me somewhat Eurosceptic and perhaps leaning to EuorSeptic !

    Interesting 57% are voting NO according to the poll above (closed?)

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    Yeah, it goes to show how out of touch this board is with the reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    This Treaty... gives greater power to the National Parliaments...
    Hi Rocky, could you just explain to us how (in real terms) it does that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiker
    I will be voting yes. Its one more step on the road to the dream of the Union of Europe.
    I'm a federalist. I'm voting YES.

    I work and deal with Poles, Spaniards, Czechs, Slovaks, Romanians, French, Germans. They are great people to have around. They add so much to our culture, society, economy.
    I travel to their lands and experiance their culture, society.
    The European Union has allowed me to make my life so much more interesting and fulfilling because of open borders, free movement of people, goods and services.

    More Union, Better Union, Greater Union, European Union.
    I couldn't have put it better myself.

    I'm a definite Yes voter.

    The people who describe themselves as pro-EU but voting NO tend IMHO to forget that European political cooperation is recent and relatively fragile.

    A NO result would to some extent at least destabilise that cooperation.

    And the "Atlanticists" (ie US neo-cons and their friends like the founder of Libertas) would very much like to see the whole European project fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiker
    I will be voting yes. Its one more step on the road to the dream of the Union of Europe.
    I'm a federalist. I'm voting YES.

    I work and deal with Poles, Spaniards, Czechs, Slovaks, Romanians, French, Germans. They are great people to have around. They add so much to our culture, society, economy.
    I travel to their lands and experiance their culture, society.
    The European Union has allowed me to make my life so much more interesting and fulfilling because of open borders, free movement of people, goods and services.

    More Union, Better Union, Greater Union, European Union.
    Czechs and spaniards are good craic- vote Yes or they will disappear off the face of the earth!
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    No.

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    I`ll be voting No. I`m pro-European but i don`t trust the leadership of our country. I was going to vote yes but I don`t feel that our government has the interests of our country, as a whole, at heart. My reason for feeling this is the fact that Bertie Ahern is still Taoiseach and still leader of Fianna Fail. The European project will continue regardless of how we vote.

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