FGers considering voting against EU treaty

[geraghd]

geraghd.

Heres an analogy for you.

You walk into a room. There are 2 doors. You have to open one. You know whats behind door A. It brings you outside. Door may or not have a lion or an offlience behind it. Pick a ************************************g door.

Id walk out the way I came in. Its a safer option for the uninformed.

(BTW Im not saying you are uninformed or ignorant but if you dont know what the treaty is about as in any election, dont vote)

[QueenELizardbreath]

I'm not voting "ignorantly", theres goiung to be a change, I dont know what the change is, so I'm voting no. Why are you voting yes? You dont seem to know anything about it. I assume you know nothing about it since you havent bothered to explain exactly what this treaty is about.

I'm pro-europe and the exspanion to the middle-east. I'm infavour of a single foriegn policy, only if its one I agree on. But just because I'm pro-europe, doesnt mean I'm going to vote for a "pro-europe" treaty. I dont know what it will do, it might make the eu better or worse.

You said the reason you were voting no is because you dont know what the treaty is about. That is voting ignorantly.
Im voting yes because I think so far that it is a good thing for Europe, I dont claim to be an expert on it, but I know a good bit, and will be informing myself more thoroughly on it closer to the time. If I didnt know what the treaty is about, I would not be voting.

It is a good thing for the EU and the faceless politburo that run it. How many empires have to fall before people realise that centralising power into the hands of a few control freaks is not a very smart idea?.

A few controls freaks? Power in the EU is centralised between 27 commissioners, over 700 members of parliament and 27 governments.
That is a lot of people. And thats just for policy under the remit of the EU.

Don't delude yourself.The EU parliament is a joke parliament and it only exists to rubberstamp whatever the 27 unelected commissioners decide.

[The Collective.]

geraghd.

Heres an analogy for you.

You walk into a room. There are 2 doors. You have to open one. You know whats behind door A. It brings you outside. Door may or not have a lion or an offlience behind it. Pick a ************************************g door.

Id walk out the way I came in. Its a safer option for the uninformed.

(BTW Im not saying you are uninformed or ignorant but if you dont know what the treaty is about as in any election, dont vote)

No thats not an option. If i dont vote, someone else makes the decision for me. What if I dont vote and the treaty is passed and its a terrible idea? Its my job tomake sure europe doesnt get messed up. I'm voting no, the safe vote, unless i find out what the treaty is about.

[rockofcashel]

geraghd.

Heres an analogy for you.

You walk into a room. There are 2 doors. You have to open one. You know whats behind door A. It brings you outside. Door may or not have a lion or an offlience behind it. Pick a ************************************g door.

Id walk out the way I came in. Its a safer option for the uninformed.

(BTW Im not saying you are uninformed or ignorant but if you dont know what the treaty is about as in any election, dont vote)

If you feel that you have to walk back out rather than make a choice, then the logical thing would be to vote No.. i.e. make no change to your current circumstance.

The most logical choice for the "uninformed" is a no vote.. if you don't know what effect an action is likely to cause, do nothing

[The Collective.]

Thanks ROC. Hence lion or offlience analogy. The treaty could be bad or good, I dont know, and I'm not going to risk it.

[rockofcashel]

No problem.. you can also join my "Remember Riverdance - Vote No" campaign

[The Collective.]

Riverdance?

[rockofcashel]

well look whats happened to Ireland in the Eurovision since the new states joined the EU.. we've been frozen out. And if that had happened ten years earlier, we'd have had no Riverdance.

If we walk blindly into a deeper, wider Europe, we will have as much influence in the newly expanded EU, as we do at Eurovision's nowadays.

Remember Riverdance - Vote No!!!

[The Collective.]

So you are infavour of riverdance? I am Infavour of a bigger and stronger Europe, I just dont know if this treaty is the way to do it.

[rockofcashel]

So you are infavour of riverdance? I am Infavour of a bigger and stronger Europe, I just dont know if this treaty is the way to do it.

But we know what we got with Riverdance.. here you're being sold a pup.

And anyway, has anyone from the Yes camp produced a better reason for voting Yes, than my Riverdance theory ?

Well ?

I think not