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Main account? Does that mean that FT was one of those with multiple personas on p.ie? How would he find the time in between his quarter million posts about elites?
"Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense." - Chapman Cohen.
i didnt think he would sign it so quickly after the court the decision I thought it would drag on for another week or two
He should never have been givin his opt out but removed from power
Has he said when he will sign the treaty recognising the ICC
"We know what to do, we just dont know how to get elected afterwards" Jean-Claude Juncker on how to fix the European economy
Actually, I don't know. But let's stay on topic............
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On a related note:
Probably best to discuss that on this thread: http://www.politics.ie/education-sci...spicer-14.htmlSTRASBOURG, France — Europe's court of human rights ruled Tuesday the display of crucifixes in Italian public schools violates religious and education freedoms under the continent's rights convention.
The ruling, which could force a Europe-wide review of the use of religious symbols in government-run schools, rejected arguments by Italy's government that the crucifix was a national symbol of culture, history and identity, tolerance and secularism.
A seven-judge panel sided with a complaint filed by Soile Lautsi, a parent of two children, who claimed public schools in her northern Italian town eight years ago refused to remove the Roman Catholic symbols from classrooms.
The ruling awarded euro5,000 ($7,390) in damages to Lautsi, which the Italian government will pay her. The court, however, did not order Italian authorities to remove the crucifixes and the ruling can still be appealed to the European Court of Human Rights' Grand Chamber of 17 judges.
Lautsi says the crucifix violates the secular principles the public schools are supposed to uphold and the right to offer her children a secular education. Crucifixes are very common in Italian public schools.
"The presence of the crucifix ... could easily be interpreted by pupils of all ages as a religious sign and they would feel that they were being educated in a school environment bearing the stamp of a given religion," the court said in a statement on the case, adding the presence of such symbols could be "disturbing for pupils who practiced other religions or were atheists."
The court added that secular, state-run schools must "observe confessional neutrality in the context of public education," where attendance is compulsory.
It further rejected Italian legal arguments that the crucifix was somehow a symbol that promoted pluralism.
Lautsi filed her case with the Strasbourg-based court in July 2006 after Italy's Constitutional Court dismissed her complaint. Her efforts to rid public schools of religious symbols in a country that is predominantly Roman Catholic has not been welcomed.
Creighton welcomes Klaus signature passing Lisbon Treaty into Czech law
Lucinda Creighton T.D., Fine Gael Spokesperson on European Affairs, today (Tuesday) welcomed the signature of the Lisbon Treaty by Czech President Vaclav Klaus after the Czech Constitutional Court ruled that the document does not violate the country's constitution.
“This is great news for Ireland and for Europe. Vaclav Klaus’ signature is the final act in what has been a long and challenging ratification procedure. This marks the end of a ten year journey to a better European Union.
“With the institutional reforms of the Lisbon Treaty secured, we now need to work together with our European partners to tackle the serious issues facing the Irish people and the people of Europe, such as climate change, international security and the current economic crisis.”
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A disaster for Ireland. But all is not yet lost. My primary objection to the Lisbon Treaty was the implications of the Charter of Fundamental Rights for our Justice system - notably in the area of asylum and immigration (articles 18/19 and the question of the right to work in Article 15 - notably in the context of the UK optout and the implications for the Irish labour-market). The reason I say all is not yet lost is that we have Protocol 21 with an optout from Justice and Home Affairs. The probem is that the new Article 29.4.7. of the Irish Constitution as amended by the Lisbon referendum allows the Government/Oireachtas to abolish the entire protocol or parts thereof. Provided that optout (which FG wants to abolish according to its Euro-election manifesto and a blog post by Lucinda Creighton on 1st April 2009) is maintained, the potential for interference in these areas by the ECJ is reduced. However, even if the optout remained, the problem of the possibility of the ECJ forcing Ireland to allow asylum-seekers to work under Article 15(1) of the Charter remainsThis is about protecting Irish jobs in a recession, and ensuring that people are not rewarded for breaking immigration-law. The fight goes on to protect the optout. It could become an issue at the next GE, if FG is seen as trying to give the ECJ the power to dictate asylum policy. Do we really want to insert - into an already eternal asylum-appeals system - yet another avenue of appeal against deportation-orders? One thing is for sure - the legal-profession certainly do. Asylum-appeals have been a goldmine for them, and they dominate Leinster House. Is that what this is about?
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Ah bollix. That is all I have to say.
On a slightly cynical note, I bet David Cameron is sighing a very large sigh of relief!
"......... we must sometimes listen to those who, consumed with zeal, have scant judgment or balance. To such ones the modern world is nothing but betrayal and ruin.........We feel bound to disagree with these prophets of doom who are forever forecasting calamity -- as though the world's end were imminent."
oh that going to be interesting
What will DC and the rest of the tories do now
"We know what to do, we just dont know how to get elected afterwards" Jean-Claude Juncker on how to fix the European economy
I have no doubt he is delighted.
"Give us the future, we've had enough of YOUR past, Give us back our country, to live in, to grow in and to love..."
