An attack on a European country is the same as an attack on Europe itself.

[st333ve]

EUROPA - Treaty of Lisbon - The Treaty at a glance

Solidarity between Member States: the Treaty of Lisbon provides that the Union and its Member States act jointly in a spirit of solidarity if a Member State is the subject of a terrorist attack.

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Am I right in believing that any EU country can now declare war on behalf of Ireland?
So long as they're met with a terrorist attack?

If any of the 27 EU countries decides to invade or attack a country outside of Europe and is met with a resulting attack, this will be the same as attacking Ireland and Irish troops are now legally bound to defend other nations - even if they are the agressor and completely in the wrong.

The world is progressing into a more violent state, military agression is glorified to the masses through newspapers and television and it is considered acceptable to murder and invade certain countries.

What's to stop an EU country using its newly found massive reserve back up force from 26 countries as support for war?

[zebedee bong]

EUROPA - Treaty of Lisbon - The Treaty at a glance

Solidarity between Member States: the Treaty of Lisbon provides that the Union and its Member States act jointly in a spirit of solidarity if a Member State is the subject of a terrorist attack.

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Am I right in believing that any EU country can now declare on behalf of Ireland?
So long as they're met with a terrorist attack.

If any of the 27 EU countries decides to invade or attack a country outside of Europe and is met with a resulting attack, this will be the same as attacking Ireland and Irish troops are now legally bound to defend other nations - even if they are the agressor and completely in the wrong.

The world is progressing into a more violent state, military agression is glorified to the masses through newspapers and television and it is considered acceptable to murder and invade certain countries.

What's to stop an EU country using its newly found massive reserve back up force from 26 countries as support for war?

I think a proud YES voter will provide the best perspective, yes voters have welcomed the global military industrialists into the heart of the european parliament, the responsibility lies with them (cheap fools)

[st333ve]

I would just like someone with an indepth knowledge to either tell me its true, or tell me its false.

There are 26 countries (and counting) who now have the might of the EU behind them if they wish to attack.

Here's my hypothetical situation.

France attacks Iran, Iran retaliates with missiles.
Ireland is now an enemy of Iran and if war breaks out Irishmen have to fight a war they didnt start.

Is this true?

I got my information from the official Lisbon treaty website so my concerns are not biast mud slinging.
Its there for everyone to read.

[JCR]

I would just like someone with an indepth knowledge to either tell me its true, or tell me its false.

There are 26 countries (and counting) who now have the might of the EU behind them if they wish to attack.

Here's my hypothetical situation.

France attacks Iran, Iran retaliates with missiles.
Ireland is now an enemy of Iran and if war breaks out Irishmen have to fight a war they didnt start.

Is this true?

I got my information from the official Lisbon treaty website so my concerns are not biast mud slinging.
Its there for everyone to read.

Dunno, but logically a common defence policy means that one single country cannot attack another without consent of the other countries.

[Cincinnatus]

As Ruari Quinn stated: "If there is a row of terraced houses and one goes on fire, surely its in the interest of all the houses in the terrace to put out that fire, even if the burning house contains unpopular neighbours."

But would we also be obliged to help/aid an attack by this unpopular neighbour on a house across the street. Or maybe Ireland would just pull the curtains over, pretend that nothings happening!

[seabhcan]

Irish troops are now legally bound to defend other nations

No. Lisbon says we are bound to provide assistance, but doesn't say military assistance. We can send blankets, doctors and food.

[absconded]

As Ruari Quinn stated: "If there is a row of terraced houses and one goes on fire, surely its in the interest of all the houses in the terrace to put out that fire, even if the burning house contains unpopular neighbours."

But would we also be obliged to help/aid an attack by this unpopular neighbour on a house across the street. Or maybe Ireland would just pull the curtains over, pretend that nothings happening!

We´ve done it before I´m afraid.

[Clanrickard]

What's to stop an EU country using its newly found massive reserve back up force from 26 countries as support for war?

Nothing hopefully. I think it is a very good idea.

[Catalpa]

EUROPA - Treaty of Lisbon - The Treaty at a glance

Solidarity between Member States: the Treaty of Lisbon provides that the Union and its Member States act jointly in a spirit of solidarity if a Member State is the subject of a terrorist attack.

---------------

Am I right in believing that any EU country can now declare on behalf of Ireland?
So long as they're met with a terrorist attack.

If any of the 27 EU countries decides to invade or attack a country outside of Europe and is met with a resulting attack, this will be the same as attacking Ireland and Irish troops are now legally bound to defend other nations - even if they are the agressor and completely in the wrong.

The world is progressing into a more violent state, military agression is glorified to the masses through newspapers and television and it is considered acceptable to murder and invade certain countries.

What's to stop an EU country using its newly found massive reserve back up force from 26 countries as support for war?

That Link you gave says that we must support another member state that is subjected to a Terrorist Attack:

But that is not the wording in the Treaty!

The Mutual Assistance Clause (Article 42.7) in
the Lisbon Treaty says:

“If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on
its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it
an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in
their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United
Nations Charter. This shall not prejudice the specific
character of the security and defence policy of certain
Member States.”

Its true that does not legally commit us to militarily supporting another EU State but it would be extremely difficult to avoid if military aid was requested.

[cactusflower]

EUROPA - Treaty of Lisbon - The Treaty at a glance

Solidarity between Member States: the Treaty of Lisbon provides that the Union and its Member States act jointly in a spirit of solidarity if a Member State is the subject of a terrorist attack.

---------------

Am I right in believing that any EU country can now declare on behalf of Ireland?
So long as they're met with a terrorist attack.

If any of the 27 EU countries decides to invade or attack a country outside of Europe and is met with a resulting attack, this will be the same as attacking Ireland and Irish troops are now legally bound to defend other nations - even if they are the agressor and completely in the wrong.

The world is progressing into a more violent state, military agression is glorified to the masses through newspapers and television and it is considered acceptable to murder and invade certain countries.

What's to stop an EU country using its newly found massive reserve back up force from 26 countries as support for war?

What is to stop an EU Government declaring it has suffered a terrorist attack and calling in outside EU forces against its own people?

The is not a rhetorical question - I would like to know the answer. In the last year there have been mass riots against Government cuts in services and jobs in a number of European countries - but particularly Greece. Last October, the UK initiated a COBRA group to deal with social collapse if the banks failed - on one date they didn't know if Lloyds, HBOs and RBS would gone by the end of the day and anticipated food riots.

The UK also used anti-terror legislation to crippling effect against Iceland over the Icelandic bank crashes.

Is there anything to prevent EU troops beng sent in to another EU state that has not asked for assistance ?