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    EU embryonic Home Office set up in secret talks under Lisbon Treaty.

    I don't remember the "Yes for Jobs" halfwits mentioning this....

    Plans for an embryonic EU "Home Office" to organise intelligence sharing and lead the fight against terrorism and crime were agreed in secret talks last week, The Sunday Telegraph has learned.

    By Bruno Waterfield in Brussels
    Published: 7:30AM BST 04 Oct 2009

    Acting under a little-noticed section of the Lisbon Treaty, officials set up a Standing Committee on Internal Security (Cosi) to implement what is effectively the the EU's first ever internal security policy.

    Under the plans, the scope of information available to law enforcement agencies and "public security organisations" would be extended from the sharing of DNA and fingerprint databases, kept and stored for new digital generation ID cards, to include CCTV footage and material gathered from internet surveillance.

    Cosi will coordinate policy between national forces and EU organisations such as Europol, the Frontex borders agency, the European Gendarmerie Force and the Brussels intelligence sharing Joint Situation Centre, under measures known as the "Stockholm programme". It will sharply step up collaboration among member states' police forces.

    The new commitee echoes similar moves a decade ago which led to the fully-fledged EU diplomatic service, now enshrined in the Lisbon Treaty, with an EU equivalent of the Foreign Secretary.

    Critics fear that Cosi - whose establishment was agreed by national ambassadors to the EU, meeting in private - will eventually also evolve into a full-scale Home Office for the EU, with authority over member states' police and security services.

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    The treaty states: "A standing committee shall be set up within the Council in order to ensure that operational cooperation on internal security is promoted and strengthened within the Union." Insiders say that this was left intentionally vague.
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    Well done suckers...


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    All that is already widely known, and the only people it freaks out are anti-Europeans like those who write and read the Telegraph. They've just called it an "EU Home Office" to try and scare people into thinking it would have the same powers as the British Home Office - which it obviously wouldn't.
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    I suppose pointing out to euro-politicians, euro-bureaucrats,and euro-supporters, the short-comings, the stupidities, and the negative consequences of their actions, laws, and policies will count as emotional "terrorism" of the worst kind.
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    The Euro Police State is born unless Lisbon is stopped. The "Stockholm Programme" is very aptly named.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    The Euro Police State is born unless Lisbon is stopped. The "Stockholm Programme" is very aptly named.
    I recently posted re the Stockholm Programme on the 'Vote YES for Tony Blair' thread. It is more relevant here. For anyone not aware of it, see following links:
    'Lives of...all of us' article at:

    Mail Online - Euroseptic: Mary Ellen Synon in Brussels

    http://www.ecln.org/ECLN-statement-o...l-2009-eng.pdf

    http://www.statewatch.org/analyses/t...gs-to-come.pdf

    EU Funding 'Orwellian' Artificial Intelligence Plan (INDECT) - dslreports.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by snibbo View Post
    I recently posted re the Stockholm Programme on the 'Vote YES for Tony Blair' thread. It is more relevant here. For anyone not aware of it, see following links:
    'Lives of...all of us' article at:

    Mail Online - Euroseptic: Mary Ellen Synon in Brussels

    http://www.ecln.org/ECLN-statement-o...l-2009-eng.pdf

    http://www.statewatch.org/analyses/t...gs-to-come.pdf

    EU Funding 'Orwellian' Artificial Intelligence Plan (INDECT) - dslreports.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by EarlyBird View Post
    I don't remember the "Yes for Jobs" halfwits mentioning this....



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    EU embryonic Home Office set up in secret talks under Lisbon Treaty - Telegraph

    Well done suckers...


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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    All that is already widely known, and the only people it freaks out are anti-Europeans like those who write and read the Telegraph. They've just called it an "EU Home Office" to try and scare people into thinking it would have the same powers as the British Home Office - which it obviously wouldn't.
    Will you stop being so naive - of course it bloody will over time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by versteckt hinter einer Veröffenlicher View Post
    All that is already widely known, and the only people it freaks out are anti-Europeans like those who write and read the Telegraph. They've just called it an "EU Home Office" to try and scare people into thinking it would have the same powers as the British Home Office - which it obviously wouldn't.
    Same powers? Of course not...it'll have more power.

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