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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    So in amongst all this, the Garda in question had a sex change. Does that add to the big conspiracy in any way? (or does it just add to the fact that you're making all this nonsense up.....)
    what are you talking about...Garda he, RO she...no its not made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by setanta View Post
    In this post, you appear to be veering between direct evidence and indirect evidence, i.e. hearsay. It is still unclear whether YOU actually witnessed unsealed ballot boxes or the reponses of various officials or are simply relying on hearsay. This goes to your credibility and is the reason I'm not taking your complaint that seriously at this time.

    I'm also surprised that you appear unfamiliar with the count process, which does depend for its integrity on oversight by the tallymen and political parties/groups, and the process by which complaints are raised. Speaking to people at the count is completely insufficient. You MUST make a formal complaint in writing to the returning officer. An Garda Síochána will not investigate verbal compaints of electoral malpractice. You have to assemble evidence (direct NOT hearsay) and must have raised the matter formally with the RO. The complaint should so ideally come from the Campaign Director of the organisation on whose behalf you attended the count. If you fail to take this approach your complaint, such as it is, will get nothing more than a perfunctory hearing and wll be treated as the spoofng it appears to be.

    If, on the oher hand, you do have direct evidence (direct witness statemenets for example), then you should raise a formal complaint. Unsealed boxes being allowed into a count without challenge is completely unacceptable. In nearly 30 years of attendence at counts I've never sent this happen. If YOU have, then you need to raise these matters quickly.
    Statements are being organised to pursue a full legal complaint, you can doubt my credibility all you like , it happened but at least finally you addressed a possibility of it happening in the last part of your post, the frustrating part of this thread is the complete denial of just the basic possibility it may have happened by posters. I have stated previously that I did not think there was fraud but just could not believe the hap hazard security with such an important vote, because security was so pathetic or just plain absent it leads to suspicions. 1000% what I stated is true and because of this we citizens should be very concerned, its a smack in our face and our vote for it not to be taken seriously.

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