Why the majority of the Irish electorate will (I fear) vote 'Yes'.

[vanla sighs]

Ganley's intervention and the scandals regarding Kelleher and his Christian fundmentalism, supporters who helped break our banks and the fact that unelected elites are in fact this only supporters cost the NO side dear

I'd say if you mention the name Kelleher to 99% of the Irish electorate they won't have a clue who you're refering to, so no, not exactly a crushing defeat there....

[FutureTaoiseach]

I believe this is battle is there to be won. Joe Costello has said on the Labour website that the lion's share of undecideds have gone to the "no" side in the last week. There is a sense of desperation as he implores people not vote against the government. And this is what they call Opposition.

Despite our best efforts and those of many others on the ‘Yes’ side, from recent polls and anecdotally it appears that the ‘No’ side has been picking up the lion’s share of the undecided voters in many parts of the country. It is a worrying trend that has been continuing for the best part of the last week.

[Observer]

A substantial number of people will vote Yes to make sure Declan Ganley and his Libertas front and COIr do not claim their a No vote as a mandate for Christian fundmentalism and to deny the unelected elites who back them a sense of victory over the Irish nation.

Is there any chance that you, FutureTaoiseach and your respective elites could get a room and leave the rest of us in peace?

[isocket]

An Bord Snip was dependent on the Government having the guts to take on vested interests in the Public Sector and Unions. They evidently haven't got the guts to take on such powerful unelected bodies who are partly to blame for the financial mess we're in right now due to the lunacy of Benchmarking and Pay agreements.

By Voting NO TO LISBON the IMF will come in a they won't give two hoots about such Unions or Public Sector threats and will finally put some manners on them to finally deliver proper services to the paying public and no Government will be able to stop the IMF from finally getting rid of the lazy lot of them.

And I find it hugely ironic that Sinn Fein and Joe Higgins are looking for a NO TO LISBON! Bring it on Joe, Bring it on Mary Lou!

NO TO LISBON - YES TO THE IMF!

What is this gra you have for the IMF?
The IMF are the henchmen of the Global Banking Cartel.
They would f88k up this country, even better than FF, FG, Labour etc.

[Prole]

I believe this is battle is there to be won. Joe Costello has said on the Labour website that the lion's share of undecideds have gone to the "no" side in the last week. There is a sense of desperation as he implores people not vote against the government. And this is what they call Opposition.

If that's true, it's astounding, when you consider the intense barrage of propaganda from the media in villifying the NO side, the lies about jobs and the economy, the lies about leaving Europe if we vote NO, the multinationals interfering in electoral matters, the fact that all the major parties are campaigning for a Yes (albeit halfheartedly).

Just shows how lousy a deal Lisbon is.

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[Neil040]

But if there is a Yes vote don't we have to have a period of reflection? Commish surveys to discover the reason there was a Yes vote so that those issues can be addressed and we can once better informed have another stab at it?

I am quite looking forward to a perpetual motion of referenda... and also once this entirely sensible approach is directed at other elections too! Keeps the presses rolling, the politicos waffling and makes my drive into work sooo much more entertaining!

[Rocky]

(The No side attempt to appeal to emotion too, of course, but it's not in the same league as the negative, manipulative crap we've been bombarded with from the media etc.
Also, the Yes side have claimed time and time again that a major reason for the No vote last time was the lack of straightforward facts available to the electorate. Is this their solution to that?)

I'd say the fear coming from the No side has been far far worse.

I don't see how anyone can compare being told that voting Yes will help the Economy, to vote No or your democracy is dead (Libertas poster), the Minimum wage will fall to €1.84 (Coir Poster) abortion will be imposed (Coir Poster), our Constitution will be meaningless (Coir Poster), Or Education and Health Service will be privatized (SP poster, this one confuses me as I don't see how our health service in particular can be any worse and every Health service in Western Europe is better.)

Also polls done afterwards showed that a large number of people voted no as they didn't understand the Treaty and a large part of the No sides campaign last time was that people who don't know should vote no. That’s where that belief is coming from.

[Hakaman]

What is this gra you have for the IMF?
The IMF are the henchmen of the Global Banking Cartel.
They would f88k up this country, even better than FF, FG, Labour etc.

Can you tell me more on this Global Banking Cartel?

If Voting NO TO LISBON will remove this Government once and for all then confidence in our economy, from an International viewpoint, will drop significantly. Meanwhile, all the Public Sector workers and their Union henchmen will continue with their safe jobs, cushy salaries, pensions and benefits while still dishing out our 3rd world Services with no change to stabilise this country economically.

Therefore there will be no option but for the IMF to come in and they instigate the required changes in order to whip the Public Sector into shape and dismiss the useless state-bodies, QUANGOS and Union-led work-practices. In effect, wiping the slate clean - get our books in order.

From my point of view this is by far the best reason to Vote NO TO LISBON!

[Political_Hardball]

I'm just reading the 28th Amendment...Does anyone know what the European Atomic Energy Community is?

I quote " No provision of this Constitution [Irish ;-)] invalidates laws enacted, acts done or measures adaopted by the State, before on or after the entry inot force of the Treaty of Lisbon, that are necessitated by the obligations of membership of the European Union referred to in subsection 5 of this section or of the European Atomic Energy Community, or prevents laws eneacted, acts done or measures adoted by the European Union orthe European Atomic Energy Community"

Well thats fairly comprehensive...games set and match to the EU.