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  • Declan Ganley

    394 54.87%
  • Michael O'Leary

    324 45.13%
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Thread: Micheal O'Leary v Declan Ganley on Prime Time tonight (Thu 24 Sep)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mar Tweedy View Post
    I don't want either MO'L or DG having much of a say in where europe is going.
    Well the other 450+ million people of Europe who ought to get a say in where Europe is going won't so we'll just have to make do with them.

    To be honest this could go either way, with O'Leary's loud mouth ranting being the deciding factor. Either it will go down well or he'll look like and idiot. Ganley's pretty stable in his performances so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verhofstadt View Post
    What are bets that Ganley mentions his Prátaí pickin' Granny and tell O'Leary he's a Clongowes educated elite?

    I think this could be Ganley's waterloo (he likes the military reference does our Decko)

    Ganley won debates against politicans by claiming:

    He was a businessman ,they were a talking shop
    He was understood efficiencies, they didn't
    He knew about job creation, they didn't
    he was a realist, they're heads were in the clouds
    he was of the people, they were elitist.

    I can't see him scoring any points on these arguments against O'Leary

    As capitalist scum goes O'Leary is the real deal.. Ganley is just a shape thrower in comparision.
    Nail on the head there. O'Leary can undercut each of Ganley's main arguments easily enough, plus if Ganley tries his usual technique of raising his voice or laughing at people O'Leary is just the guy to give as good (or probably far better) than he gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verhofstadt View Post
    I think this could be Ganley's waterloo (he likes the military reference does our Decko)
    Waterloo!!! And so close to Brussels!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davedub View Post
    Should be quite the show-down.
    O'Leary certainly has nothing to lose by going nuts on TV and taking it to Ganley all guns blazing. I bet a load of Yes campaigners and politicians are hoping O'Leary can do what they've failed to do with Ganley.
    Yawn, I suspect the turn out tomorrow week will drop considerably as a direct result. I have never met anyone who has annything in common with these 2 anti-societal types.
    I can't see O'Leary revealing anything that Prime Time hasn't revealed about Ganley's dealings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verhofstadt View Post

    As capitalist scum goes O'Leary is the real deal.. Ganley is just a shape thrower in comparision.
    I suppose Ganley can mention his very successful Anglo Adriatic Investment Fund:

    Anglo Adriatic Investment Fund SA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by corelli View Post
    Why would the Irish Prime Minister (and I am no fan) lower himself to debate against a guy who failed to get elected to the EP from Ireland NW.
    True, but then again, Ganley carries some weight and he does represent the No side. OK so he didn't get elected as an MEP, however he carried a fair few votes and (be it perceptively) successfully drove a No vote in Ireland to Lisbon 1 with Libertas,
    (thats more than MOL is doing for the yes side with stickers on his planes)

    Clowen already has lowered the office of the Taoiseach, at least he'd be showing some leadership and balls if he was to debate with the No side
    regardless of who represents the no side. Just mho.

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    I would not be one bit worried about Ganley's ability to deliver a series of solid points at this critical time -I am sure he is delighted to get the air time. Some people in here are getting excited about their 'hero' O'Leary. I would state the obvious and remind everyone that O'Leary doesn't actually care about the vote one way or the other, it's all just a publicity stunt and a bit of fun from his perspective. Expect Ganley (a different species altogether) to work the dynamic so that he also benefits.

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    ganely will kick his arse and if anyone wants a preview of whats to come check out the last word which will precede this by several hours.

    end of the day o leary is a PR merchant.

    he doesnt DO debates, he does press confrences- and BADLY considering the last one he did for ryanair caused its share price to collapse by over 10% on a day he made 500% profit !!!!

    i know he has his fans but most people outside the media just dont like the guy and he's not capable of reigning himself in when he should. in business that doesnt matter as the bottom line is profit, but in a public debate you actually have to argue on issues. all ganly has to do is stick to the treaty and o leary will be lost as despite what he said on the last word a week or so ago i seriously doubt he read a single word of it.

    all we need from oleary is another "ryanair does whats in the best interest of ryanair" line out of him and he's sunk.

    and bear in mind he said that when he had a free run with no opposition.

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    I hope that O'Leary doesn't just debate on business issues. It would, for example, be great to see him drill Ganley on why this alleged Europhile first floated the idea of Libertas to a neo-con American public body, the Foreign Policy Research Institute, whose stated aim is:

    "bringing the insights of scholarship to bear on the development of policies that advance U.S. national interests."

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    I think this is completely mental.
    Two unelected headline grabbers debating the future of our Constitution on national TV.

    €2 - O'Leary to win by a nose.
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