Micheal O'Leary v Declan Ganley on Prime Time tonight (Thu 24 Sep)

[2525]

O L has no class - all seats and no arm rests. He always looks to his interests and really doesn't care about anyone else. As ever he speaks publicity, only this time he is looking to the EU to remove the threats of fines. A legend in his own mind - but simply no class.

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[McDave]

''It seems that only in the European Union, Ireland and Zimbabwe you are forced to vote twice.....The vote should be respected. It is the only democratic thing to do'' - Michael O'Leary

That's all Declan Ganley has to say.

Well, I suppose MOL has his answer to that ready now!

[marmurr1916]

Weather forecast: squalls, followed by mock outrage with storms in teacups spreading from the west, more heat than light expected.

[TwoTonneTonyGalento]

Well, I suppose MOL has his answer to that ready now!

He might but it's very hard to wriggle out of such a comment.

[marmurr1916]

Very hard to wriggle out of it though.

"The situation has changed. We've now got a better deal. We get to keep our Commissioner. Declan, you campaigned for that last time? Why aren't you happy?"

[McDave]

Those of us paying attention here in the US pray that the Irish people vote this down! Many here are not sheep to this global "world governance" and I hope that you all will not be as well.

We'll leave world governance and all that preemptive first strike stuff to Dubya, thank you. The EU and Lisbon, on the other hand, is about European governance, in accordance with European values.

[Baron von Biffo]

Not if the ground has changed since. There's probably a guaranteed No vote of 40%. However, a lot of the Lisbon 1 No has since weakened (e.g. Labour and the Greens now actively in favour; many unions in favour; FG actually campaigning). The No camp will already be struggling hard to hold onto the Lisbon 1 constituency. And it's not going to be easy with the likes of COIR and UKIP muddying the waters. And the (at least) couple of a percent Ganley secured last time round will finally disappear like snow off the ditch if he doesn't perform tonight. If he blows it, it's curtains for the No campaign.

The leadership of Labour and the Greens might be in favour, it remains to be seen if the membership will follow them. Even FF and FG can't take their members for granted on this.

Many supporters of FG and Lab see this as a missed opportunity by their leaders to take out the government. They will take things into their own hands at the ballot. Much anti government feeling will translate into No's as well, and there's a lot of that about.

Cowen can't survive another loss at the polls. Anyone who wants to see the back of him will vote No.

Some Yes voters from the last time who are appalled at the rejection of the democratic will of the people, will switch sides.

This isn't over by a long shot.

There isn't a monopoly of water muddiers on the No side. The yes lot are touting Lisbon as a panacea that will do everything from boost jobs to fight crime and possibly even take the moss of your lawn.

As for the great debate - Apart from partisans of both sides looking for ammo to beat each other, I can't see a programme featuring two of the most unlovely figures in the country debating one of the driest treaties ever written drawing a huge audience.

[TwoTonneTonyGalento]

"The situation has changed. We've now got a better deal. We get to keep our Commissioner. Declan, you campaigned for that last time? Why aren't you happy?"

He said that only in the 'EU, Ireland & in Zimbabwe that you are forced to vote twice'. Nothing has changed in that regard. He can't really go back on that comment.

[wysiwyg]

Well, I suppose MOL has his answer to that ready now!

well he'll probably need an answer to this as well

"O'Leary vows to defy 'evil empire' over Charleroi ruling"

O'Leary vows to defy 'evil empire' over Charleroi ruling - Business News, Business - The Independent

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Micheal O'Leary and Declan Ganley will go head-to-head on RTE's Prime Time show tonight. This has been widely known in many circles, in both camps and in RTE for a few days that this debate was going to happen.

RTE Primetime - 9.35, RTE One Television

Micheal O'Leary and Declan Ganley will also be on opposing sides on The Last Word with Matt Cooper this evening from 4.30pm - in a Lisbon Debate Special in front of a live audience from the offices of The Irish Times.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper, 4.30 - 7.00 100 - 102 TodayFM

O LEARY NEVER WANTED TO BE DANA? - MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE HONESTY AND SOME COMPASSION IS REQUIRED TO BE A DANA - HE JUST DOESN't HAVE IT