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About LinkBacksNot really. The lisbon treaty abolishes democracy, but it uses the voters money to do it.Originally Posted by PAD10H
Not really. The lisbon treaty abolishes democracy, but it uses the voters money to do it.
what?
Statement by the Irish Labour Court in respect of this claim:Is your job safe?
"Contractors from other member states could provide services at the same rates and conditions of employment as in their country of origin. Depending on the country of origin this could seriously undemine the competitive position of Irish contractors."
LABOUR COURT RULING
Determination NO Rep091, 26.02.2009
Yet another flimsy piece of dishonesty being swallowed whole by people.Statement
It has come to the Court’s attention that a leaflet being distributed by the UK Independence Party, in relation to the referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, contains a serious misrepresentation of a decision of the Labour Court in a case concerning the applicability of an Registered Employment Agreement to electrical contractors based outside this jurisdiction.
The leaflet implies that contractors from other member states are not bound by the terms of such regulations. It seeks to rely on a decision of the Labour Court as authority for that proposition. The Court made no such decision and in fact decided the opposite in the case to which the leaflet refers.
The leaflet contains what purports to be a quote from the decision in question (Determination No.REP091) which has been altered so as to totally change its import.
That case concerned a claim by certain employers in the electrical contracting industry that the Registered Agreement for that Industry should be cancelled on the grounds, inter alia, that EU law prevents its application to contractors based outside the State. Having reviewed the current state of national and Community law, and relevant decisions of the European Court of Justice, the Court concluded that statutory regulations and agreements on pay and conditions of employment, which are legally binding in Ireland, are applicable to and enforceable against all employers operating within this jurisdiction irrespective of their country of origin.
It is neither the practice nor the desire of the Labour Court to engage in public controversy in relation to its decisions. However in circumstances in which one of its decisions is being seriously misrepresented for political purposes the Court considers it to be its duty to put the record straight.
End
Kevin Duffy
Chairman
18th September 2009.
Note: The full text of Determination No. REP091 can be obtained on the Court’s web site Home . The relevant passages are to be found in Section 32, at paragraphs 32.1 to 32.12 inclusive
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.
Such small minded racism - but not surprising from the yesmen.
ive got the refcom one.
a REALLY shoddy looking one from micheal martins office of foreign affairs too, you think with their resources they'd pay abit more for the better weighted paper.
and got the FF one which really tells you sod all about the actual treaty.
its kinda shocking really considering theres only a week and a bit left. i suppose theyre all waiting for the last week.
incidently sunday was the first time i saw a canvasser in my area. an ol FF head giving out leaflets outside the church.
Hi,
I'm puzzled - again and again I see comments saying Farage was excellent on this show or that debate. I keep hearing he was able to out quote and provide facts the yes supporters provide, also the salaried yes politicians and all the other tax funded yes campaigners.
Then we find a leaflet produced NOT by UKIP (EUkip) but by a pan EU political party/group called the EFD which has so scared the yes campaigners that they are attacking NOT the message, not the facts, not the detail but much as most cowards do when they run out of honesty they are attacking the messenger.
If you are in the water drowning is it wise to hold a test to see who is alowed to throw you a lifeline?
In Ireland do you have life rings on quay sides with notices saying if someone falls in and is drowning foreigners are NOT allows to throw them a life ring without a formal written test?
The staggering political imaturity of the yes supporter makes me understand why they want Ireland to be ruled by foreigners as a vassal state - let us hope there are enough Irish people who have bothered learning the facts and will vote NO to vassal status under control of the Lisbon Constitution.
Regards,
Greg L-W.
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Wait for the yes side to dismiss UKIP as a bunch of nutters interfering in an Irish referendum!! Bet they wont say anything about jose manuel barroso trying a €15 million bribe to the people of limerick!
It's not a "UKIP Leaflet" it's an EFD leaflet - the Europe of Freedom and Democracy Group from the European Parliament. Of which UKIP are a member, but there are 33 MEPs from 9 different countries in the group.
That's an interesting position, given that UKIP have actually changed the text of the Labour Court ruling they pretend to cite to make it say what they want it to say.
But perhaps that does pass for honesty on the No side.
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.
Of the 32 members of EFD, 13 are from UKIP. The next largest group of member are from Lega Nord (9) - these are a party of right-wing Italian federalists.
we all the know the problems with UKIP but Lega Nord are a xenophobic party - The party leader has suggested in the past that Italy should shoot boats of immigrants and he describes africans as "bingo-bongos"
The rest of EFD is made up of a mixed bag of neo-fascists, ultra conservatives and right-wing nationalists.
charming bunch of people trying to influence the Irish vote.
