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Thread: Europe has already rejected the Fourth Reich Project

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    Quote Originally Posted by USER1234 View Post
    No our goverment did, not the e.u.

    Yes, the Irish landowners and bankers government made the crisis particularly chronic here in Ireland, but EU policies, and particularly the policies of the Corporatist, unaccountable, European Central Bank played a very large part in the debacle.

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    Its already happening in Ireland, lisbon will speed up the process:

    "Salary levels for three- to six-month contract jobs, now increasingly common for men as well as women, have slumped 40 percent in the past three years," said Ryoko Sugawara, deputy secretary general at the union.

    Convenience store chains, diners and security companies are the main sources of contract work.

    "People with university degrees are now living pay-cheque to pay-cheque, just like in America," she said.

    With the widening income gap, a mindset of winners and losers is developing in a workforce that once largely thought of itself as a middle-class mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Caped Cod View Post
    “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power” - Benito Mussolini

    Is this not a perfect definition of NAMA?

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    Calling the Lisbon Treaty the Fourth Reich is an insult to those who died in the Second World War. It trivialises the Holocaust and shows exactly the kind of person who is voting no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician View Post
    Calling the Lisbon Treaty the Fourth Reich is an insult to those who died in the Second World War. It trivialises the Holocaust and shows exactly the kind of person who is voting no.
    Im not calling the lisbon treaty the Fourth Reich. Im saying that there is a clear project to create a Corporatist Fourth Reich, and the lisbon incorporation is the final link in the chain.

    The real insult to the people who died fighting the Third Reich is to carelessly vote ourselves into its neo-manifestation.

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    "After a decade of corporate restructuring, a third of Japan's workforce is now in part-time or contract jobs, a trend policy makers worry will erode contributions to the social safety net and further discourage people from having children in a rapidly ageing society."

    This is the true motivation behind lisbon - to oust the workers from their jobs and replace them with migrant part time and temporary workers, with no union protection or pension rights.

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    Not often that you see an OP that so clearly illustrates Godwin's Law:
    Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Any links on your thesis re "Das Vierte Reich"?
    there is a clear project to create a Corporatist Fourth Reich
    Mr Gormley described calls for the resignation of his cabinet colleague as "absolute nonsense". He said Mr Lenihan was doing "a very good job under exceptionally difficult circumstances".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vega1447 View Post
    Not often that you see an OP that so clearly illustrates Godwin's Law:
    Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Any links on your thesis re "Das Vierte Reich"?
    Godwins "law" is a silly redundancy, it requires no further comment.

    You should know that the Third Reich was not just something conjured up in Hitler's mind. It was the thrust of European imperialism for centuries, i.e. the unification of European capital for the subjugation and incorporation of areas of the world not yet subject to European capital. Hitler was just the most overtly insane of a long line of European leaders who had tried to make this nightmare a reality. The Fourth Reich Project, however, has come to the point of vitual success. Only Irish voters can now save Europeans and the rest of the world from this obscenity.

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    I'll leave others judge your Godwin's law rejoinder.

    A "Grossraum" was a core part of Hitler's and the Nazi's project; a large continental space into which Germany would expand and ultimately rival the US for hegemony.

    You still have not justified your use of the term Fourth Reich:
    The Fourth Reich Project, however, has come to the point of vitual success
    Mr Gormley described calls for the resignation of his cabinet colleague as "absolute nonsense". He said Mr Lenihan was doing "a very good job under exceptionally difficult circumstances".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vega1447 View Post
    I'll leave others judge your Godwin's law rejoinder.

    A "Grossraum" was a core part of Hitler's and the Nazi's project; a large continental space into which Germany would expand and ultimately rival the US for hegemony.

    You still have not justified your use of the term Fourth Reich:
    I do not say the Fourth Reich is particularly Nazi, in many respects its not, just as the First and Second Reichs were not Nazi. But they all share the core goal of the centralised power of the European ruling class and the domination of European capital in the world. In that sense, it cannot be denied that the Lisbon treaty would create the Fourth Reich.

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