The RCC is in no position to tell anybody anything.
Woot! Straight to smear!Originally Posted by SilverLining
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.
In fairness what authority has a bishop got to make such statements in relation to the Lisbon treaty.
He says that there is no reason not to vote yes on religious or ethical grounds, he is right. Abortion has nothing to do with Lisbon (I'm a Catholic and a no supporter). The RTE headline 'No reason to oppose Lisbon' is utterly misleading.
He must have his head buried in the sand regarding Abortion throughout Europe. In Eastern Europe 45% of all conceived children are killed in abortion clinics, while in several countries this figure rises to 66%. The statistics for Northern Europe are 20%, Southern Europe 24% and Western Europe 16%.
Every year 2.2 million children are killed in European Abortion clinics.
Annually England kills 201,171 children in abortion clinics, France 155,893 children, Italy 131,039, Germany 129,650, Netherlands 187,910, Romania 163,350 and Greece 107,545 (2005 figures)...
The RCC has no credibility whatsoever with its shady past and political ambitions throughout its history. It always sides with the powerful over the ordinary people even those who are its followers.
As much right as anybody else. Certainly as much right as Pat Cox, Eamon Dunphy and Michael O'Leary.
Does that mean the Irish RCC support a Yes vote ? No surprise there.
but a leading No group - COIR - believe that it does and lots of people who voted No the last time also believed that it could effect the law in ireland - given that their views are based on a catholic outlook then clarification from a spiritual leader is to be welcomed
In fairness, a Catholic bishop also holds certain temporal powers from his boss, the Pope, who is head of a temporal power, the Vatican City State, which is a political player and member of the EU; they even have their own €uros minted.
No doubt at least a bishops' letter is on the way on orders from Uncle Benny to be read at all Masses (as before) immediately prior to the Referendum telling the plebs that they are Catholics first.
Em, any chance of a link to those stats? Which part of Eastern Europe? 45% seems massively high. Not saying you're wrong, just that this seems like interesting reading. Anyhow, thanks!
P.S. Also, how would the Lisbon treaty cause these figures to be somehow transported to Ireland?
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