Fraud and broken promises at the EU.

[blacbloc]

There is a succinct letter in today's Irish Examiner which every person in this country ought to read before they vote:

CONSIDER 1 ... In June 1992, we were told if we voted for Maastricht Europe would give us 800 million ECUs (European Currency Units) The ink was barely dry and we discovered it was only 600m ECUs.

Consider 2 ... In 1984, Margaret Thatcher negotiated a diminution of Britain’s contribution to Europe which Tony Blair, in 2005, agreed to forego in return for a review of spending. That review has not happened and has been put so far on the long finger it likely never will.

Consider 3 ... The European Court of Auditors has refused to pass the EU accounts for the past 14 (or is it 15?) years because of the high incidence of fraud (see the EU website if you are a disbeliever).

Consider 4 ... The accountant who drew our attention to this last fact, Martha Andreasson, was sacked from the EU by her boss, NeilKinnock, despite the EU’s own whistleblowers’ charter’.

Consider 5 ... Declaration 17 attached to the Lisbon Treaty states "the treaties and the law adopted by the union on the basis of the treaties have primacy over the law of member states".

Having considered these facts, is there any reason why we should trust this organisation?

Having considered these facts, is there one reason why we should vote yes?

Read more: Five points worthy of consideration | Irish Examiner

[TimBuckII]

There is a succinct letter in today's Irish Examiner which every person in this country ought to read before they vote:



Read more: Five points worthy of consideration | Irish Examiner

1 reason to vote Yes is to remain at the harte of this fraud.

[Pauli]

1 reason to vote Yes is to remain at the harte of this fraud.

I agree fully. It's not as if we don't have our own fraud, embezzlement, endemic corruption, nepotism, cronyism and downright incompetent mismanagement in abundance here. We don't need to go to Europe to find it.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

There is an opportunity here, recognisable across the Community that the EU should not proceed any further down the line of federalism or 'integration' until such time as the institutions are fit and proper instruments.

They are plainly not fit and proper institutions as the culture of non-accountability and the obvious corruption there are obvious signals.

For me it doesn't matter what the legal ramifications on Irish law and sovereignty are. We have an opportunity to do what millions of people across the EU want to see and that is an organisation which is attempting to pull more power to itself without accountability getting a smack across the nose.

I think the message should be 'reform' or come to a crunching halt.

[blacbloc]

I agree fully. It's not as if we don't have our own fraud, embezzlement, endemic corruption, nepotism, cronyism and downright incompetent mismanagement in abundance here. We don't need to go to Europe to find it.

And it certainly is not like the EU ever did a damned thing about it, either. Or ever will.

[He3]

And it certainly is not like the EU ever did a damned thing about it, either. Or ever will.

They can borrow Mary Coughlan's line when asked if she would sack the Fás Board:

That's not a matter for me.

[myksav]

I agree fully. It's not as if we don't have our own fraud, embezzlement, endemic corruption, nepotism, cronyism and downright incompetent mismanagement in abundance here. We don't need to go to Europe to find it.

Ah, because there is corruption, etc in Ireland, we should tie ourselves tighter to another corrupt system?

[Pauli]

Ah, because there is corruption, etc in Ireland, we should tie ourselves tighter to another corrupt system?

I am not saying that. We should get our own house in order first before criticising others for the same crap. With the possible exception of Italy, you would be hard pressed to find a more corrupt country than this in western Europe.

[Pauli]

And it certainly is not like the EU ever did a damned thing about it, either. Or ever will.

It's not their job. It's ours.

[Wakeupcall]

The EU is a bigger worse more powerful and better at deciet than FF or any of our politicians could ever hope to become. Instead our politicians beg them for acceptance.