Ireland IS The Heart of Europe!

[florin]

Ireland is the appendix of Europe, a small and rather useless organ which, if it swells up and causes pain, can be excised without fuss.

[McDave]

The only way to save the EU project is to vote NO.

So what precisely is your actual vision of the EU project? Details please.

[McDave]

Declan Ganley - "I believe that the EU is absolutely essential and one of those things that is a truism is that we have to be at the heart of Europe - wherever that is. But that's not what the Lisbon Treaty does. To be at the theoretical heart of Europe, Europe has to have a heart. And to have a heart it has to listen to its people."

And apart from 'My Little Pony' hearts all over the place, what is your actual alternative to the EU as per Lisbon?

[Cincinnatus]

And apart from 'My Little Pony' hearts all over the place, what is your actual alternative to the EU as per Lisbon?

my alternative to the EU as per Lisbon is a federal Ireland with an alliance with a benign one world government. but thats just me !!

for the moment i'll be happy if I can Reaffirm my NO Vote.

[Mitsui]

I see much for the Lisbon treaty, and I see much against it.

But as an Irishman very familiar with the history of these islands in the twentieth century I'll say one thing:

UKIP and Cóir on the same side of ANYTHING is the most obviously gangrenous idea since the Soviet-German pact.

Sincere, intelligent opponents of the Lisbon treaty must realise that both groups are leeches who wish to take us all back to very dark times indeed. Cóir would be patrolling Ryanair flights looking for anyone who might seem to them to be going to England for immoral purposes; at the other end of the flight, UKIP's agents would (once they've cleared out Blacks and Asians) be checking for anyone who looked like a Paddy.

Get real, people!

To the extent that such sincere, intelligent opponents of the Lisbon treaty welcome the support of these hate-filled, pustulescent groups, whose entire being is focussed on hatred of the new, the different, the challenging and the very idea of progress, they should be ashamed.

But clearly they are not.

This, rather than any other single factor, has made up my mind.

Lie down with dogs and get up with fleas.

Lie down with religious or racist Nazis and get up excusing Birkenau and Artane.

Nein effing danke.

[Cincinnatus]

I see much for the Lisbon treaty, and I see much against it.

But as an Irishman very familiar with the history of these islands in the twentieth century I'll say one thing:

UKIP and Cóir on the same side of ANYTHING is the most obviously gangrenous idea since the Soviet-German pact.

Sincere, intelligent opponents of the Lisbon treaty must realise that both groups are leeches who wish to take us all back to very dark times indeed. Cóir would be patrolling Ryanair flights looking for anyone who might seem to them to be going to England for immoral purposes; at the other end of the flight, UKIP's agents would (once they've cleared out Blacks and Asians) be checking for anyone who looked like a Paddy.

Get real, people!

To the extent that such sincere, intelligent opponents of the Lisbon treaty welcome the support of these hate-filled, pustulescent groups, whose entire being is focussed on hatred of the new, the different, the challenging and the very idea of progress, they should be ashamed.

But clearly they are not.

This, rather than any other single factor, has made up my mind.

Lie down with dogs and get up with fleas.

Lie down with religious or racist Nazis and get up excusing Birkenau and Artane.

Nein effing danke.

eh.. like McDave said, this is happy clappy NO thread, no dead babies or English please, just projecting & receiving good vibes. thanks.

[Al.]

All the detailed arguments have been done to death - forget all that.

[SIZE="2"]Its time to sell cornflakes! [/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]Ireland IS the Heart of Europe[/SIZE]



[SIZE="4"]DO IT FOR EUROPE - VOTE NO[/SIZE]

Ain't that funny. Remember that Hans Christian Seebohm quote from a while back...?

Does free Europe want to join Germany? Germany is the heart of Europe, and the limbs must adjust themselves to the heart, not the heart to the limbs.

So there.

[stewiegriffin]

When it comes to Germans , Im with Dylan Moran!

[stewiegriffin]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQyKCwUclHk"]YouTube - Dylan Moran - Germany[/ame]