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Thread: The Referendum is fixed. Its full of lies, fraud and unfairness.

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    The Referendum is fixed. Its full of lies, fraud and unfairness.

    I have come to the conclusion that the Lisbon treaty has been fixed to be assured a Yes vote.

    Today I travelled around quite a few towns and the Only posters I have seen are YES posters.

    The posters are various in reflection of various groups, and they range from the YES yellow to Blue, giving the impression both sides are giving out messages when in fact it is only the Yes side. This clearly is to give out a subliminal message.

    I have not yet seen 1 poster informing people to vote NO.

    Now I understand these posters exist, but they do not exist in the same numbers as the YES campaign, and I failed to see any today despite seeing many hundreds of YES posters.

    Also these posters are full of lies.

    "Keep Ireland in Europe". "Save Irish Jobs". etc.

    All blatant lies.

    I also listened to Brian Cowen on mid west radio.

    He was spouting further lies that Ireland will not take part in the agruicultural talks within the EU if we vote NO. WE will be shuned by Europe.

    He claimed that Ireland will be at the far parts outside of Europe, and we will be left behind. But if we vote Yes the economy will recover, and Job creation will expand throughout Ireland.

    The Broadcaster then asked Cowen about Turf cutting rights. Would we lose these under Lisbon?

    Cowens response was we had to look at the bigger picture and waffled on about othe things without actually answering the quesiton.

    He was then asked would we lose our commisioner after 2014 if we voted for the treaty.

    Again Cowen failed to answer the question.


    Clearly the Yes side are lying through their teeth and are making the Irish people out to be fools.

    I am sure the Lisbon Treaty will be passed with a YES vote , but this will be done with lies.

    My only quesiotn is who is funding the YES campaign? And why do we have a lack of action by the No campaign?

    Its all one big con, the whole thing is fixed.

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    It might be a NO...

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    This is another No side troll thread!!!

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    stop being so hysterical

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    Skoools out early today.....

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    Its the end of the LIESbon as we know it...

    Vote NO to it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.Harry View Post
    Intel, Ryanair and IBEC are spending hundreds of thousands on the Yes campaign, paying for posters and labour. FF& FG are also getting taxpayers' money from ELDR and EPP in Europe. The No side can't compete financially.
    All we have is the common sense of the people and their wisdom to know when they're being duped.
    +1
    People are starting to realise they've been duped. Hopefully by Oct 2nd they will have realised by how much and vote no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D.Harry View Post
    The No side can't compete financially.
    But hey they tell so many lies, lies and more lies that it make up for it!!!


    Vote YES

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    Will companies like Intel spending big bucks promting a YES vote write it off as a business expence - they would claim a Lisbon vote is good for the economy, jobs and them as the YEs posters say - hence they would say it is a legitimate cost to them.

    Any tax experts who can clarify the eligibility of such costs for tax relief?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ang View Post
    +1
    People are starting to realise they've been duped. Hopefully by Oct 2nd they will have realised by how much and vote no.
    Slowly but surely they are but it may not be enough. it is up to each and everyone of us who supports the NO campaign to be very vocal about the treaty and the reasons why we should vote no again otherwise there is a great risk that the YES side will win.

    I find it incredible that a country that was under the shackles of a great empire for so many years before finally gaining her freedom is now prepared to be sleepwalked into another great empire. Can people really not see that what the EU is fast becoming all about is a United States of Europe with France and Germany at its helm?
    One of the moderators on here really wrecks my head with his/her power mad ego
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