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    SIPTU to end their 103 year old link with Labour

    According to the Sunday Times the largest trade union in Ireland, SIPTU, may "disaffiliate" from the Labour party at a conference in Cork this week.

    This would be a remarkably symbolic separation should it occur with it confirming what the Labour party stated themselves recently. . . "that Labour are no longer left wing".

    This, therefore, should really be no surprise to the public as during this parliament the Labour party have signed up lock, stock and barrel to right wing ideology whilst inventing policies that have been copied and implemented by the UK Conservative party (for example. . reducing welfare payments for under 26 YOs).

    It should also seem unsurprising when one considers that Ruairi Quinn (who oddly proclaims himself a "socialist" despite Ivan Yates once stating he was the most right wing member of the Rainbow 1990s cabinet that Yates was a member of) threatened teaching unions with job losses in 2013.

    There is also a useful comparison to be made with what the Irish LP refer to as their sister party in the UK . . led by Jeremy Corbyn. Whereas Corbyn was elected with widespread support (including the unions) the Irish LP are now stating that they no longer need the unions and indeed do not represent people who are in unions.

    This is, of course, a remarkable volte face for the LP who fought the last campaign in 2011 on the basis of "Vote for us and we'll protect you from FG"

    Is there room on the right for the LP?

    I don't think there is and I also believe that this will be a fatal move for the LP. . Leaving them as nothing other than a small rump who will seem primarily obsessed with who people are having sex with and whether they can have abortions or not.

    Is the end nigh for Labour?
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    Surely there must be something in this that means you can go on strike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcos the black View Post
    Surely there must be something in this that means you can go on strike?
    I'm not a member of a union. This thread is not about me. . . But nice attempt from a FG supporter to diverge the thread on the second post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    I'm not a member of a union. This thread is not about me. . . But nice attempt from a FG supporter to diverge the thread on the second post.
    Just asked a question Robert. Is that not allowed in your world?
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    Ruari Quinn the man who said only Labour could control Capitalism.

    Who is wagging who Ruairi? Siptu about to step up and break with the party of the neo liberals albeit with a touch feely side occasionally showing when it opens food banks.
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    I'll be surprised if its true seeing as the Labour party was formed to be the political voice of the union movement, not vice versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    I'll be surprised if its true seeing as the Labour party was formed to be the political voice of the union movement, not vice versa.
    In 1912. . . The "leaders" of the current LP speak for FG whilst trying to simultaneously give the impression that they give a f**k about the poor.
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    I was struck by this myself. Its well documented that Labour are not in any real meaning of the phrase a left wing party. I had a bit of back and forth with poster cllr. -a reasonably well known labour councillor-and he confirmed that they are really Social Democrats (pity that name is gone) and mainly concerned with realpolitik and as such interested in the center.

    Apparently the sale of the residual share in Aer Lingus was a bridge to far for SIPTU's NEC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socratus O' Pericles View Post
    I was struck by this myself. Its well documented that Labour are not in any real meaning of the phrase a left wing party. I had a bit of back and forth with poster cllr. -a reasonably well known labour councillor-and he confirmed that they are really Social Democrats (pity that name is gone) and mainly concerned with realpolitik and as such interested in the center.

    Apparently the sale of the residual share in Aer Lingus was a bridge to far for SIPTU's NEC.
    Indeed the LP have been pissing all over the unions since 2011.

    They had the ultimate get out card. . . "Austerity - The economy . . . FF wrecked it". . . . Therefore the unions had no choice but to bite their lips and accept it on the condition that all would be well as soon as the country/economy showed signs of improvement.

    But the LP have carried on with anti-union legislation like FEMPI and the unnecessary sale of AL which opened the eyes of SIPTU into having to finally accept that their "partners" in Government were into privatisation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruadh View Post
    Ruari Quinn the man who said only Labour could control Capitalism.

    Who is wagging who Ruairi? Siptu about to step up and break with the party of the neo liberals albeit with a touch feely side occasionally showing when it opens food banks.
    Looking at the manner in which the Looper Party stayed silent whilst Tax Non Dom gained debt write-down, after debt write down, it is now abundantly clear that capitalism controls the Looper party.

    For those that are still in doubt, take note of

    - Lorraine Higgins and Pat Rabbitte are pushing bills to introduce censorship on the internet
    - Alex Whyte is proposing legislation to copperfasten the power of the DOBlin media
    - Ms. Cahill ( effectively a sindo churnalist) going for the Seanad
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